BORGER: In an Obama vs. Obama race, Obama loses
September 8th, 2011
01:52 PM ET
11 years ago

BORGER: In an Obama vs. Obama race, Obama loses

Washington (CNN) - Ever heard of a State of the Union speech in September?

Um, not usually. That is, except for tonight. The president called for the session-and Republicans couldn't figure out a way out of it, so they're attending, reluctantly. No Democrat-sits-with-a-GOP-buddy system this time; some Republicans have even threatened to boycott.


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  1. Steve, New York City

    Some members of the GOP threatening a boycott, are remniscent of Rep Wilson's EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE behavior (with his "you lie" outburst). Does anyone really believe that any Republicans would have boycotted Clinton, Carter or any other fully-white president? Some in the GOP are a truly shameful.

    Why all the comparisons to Reagan's turnaround, when Obama inherited a FAR WORSE situation on all fronts, versus when Reagan stepped into office. Obama deserves to take some blame for the current situation, but so does Bush # 43.

    Finally, why do some solely blame Obama for the unemployment crisis? This has been 30 years (or more) in the making, as anti-science / anti-education elements of our society have simply assumed that manufacturing jobs would never disappear. Education, job re-training are desperately needed – sort of hypocritical to solely blame this on the president, when the problem perhaps started brewing before the guy even entered college.

    September 8, 2011 02:01 pm at 2:01 pm |
  2. ConservaFASCISTS/TEAliban/TEAhadists

    The President doesn't need to demonize TEApublicans. However, he needs to go big wth these proposals. So big, that is he has to concede on any of them, he'll still get majority of what he wants. We all know that the TEAhadists in the House will oppose anything he proposes, which is all the more reason why he needs to lay out his plan no matter how big and expensive it is. Look at it this way; if he would have gotten the stimulus he wanted in the first place, maybe we wouldn't be in this predicament.

    September 8, 2011 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  3. Brassel

    We all understand its all about politics/re-election for the President. He might actually get serious about job creation if you give him another four years if that is not a the most idiotic thing ever. All I would ask of the President is don't do anything to make it worse which is precisely what has been happening the last few years.

    September 8, 2011 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  4. A True Centrist

    There's nothing else to say any analysis of the numbers and even by the administration's own words, they have failed miserably when it comes to job creation. The longest streak of consecutive months of over 9% unemployment since the Great Depression, the promise to Congress and the American people that unemployment would never exceed 8% (yet it topped 10%), $200k/job created on the stimulus using the administration's highest estimates (which we all know is inflated), documented cases of fraud and waste (albeit this is nothing new for the government), an enormous increase in people who rely on food stamps, an enormous increase of people living below or on the poverty line etc. I could keep going but what is the point? Examples of failure after failure.

    September 8, 2011 02:22 pm at 2:22 pm |
  5. California Conservative

    Not only Obama but America.

    September 8, 2011 02:27 pm at 2:27 pm |
  6. Obama a loser..!

    Obama vs Obama...both are losers...why? rhetoric combined with overspending does not create anthing
    least of which is jooooooooooooobs...economy must grow jobs not buy short-term whatever.....!

    September 8, 2011 02:28 pm at 2:28 pm |
  7. vic , nashville ,tn

    Again this article about media speculation about 2012

    Past three years millions underemployed never apply for unemployment benefit or Food stamp hoping government will put the economy on track.

    What we are seeing is Obama is trying do something but republicans other side No

    We don’t have time to participate or organize rallies yes we made a mistake in 2010 we didn’t go to polling booth that reflect in deficit debate. We won’t make same mistake again

    So media must stop speculating base on 2010 election

    September 8, 2011 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |
  8. Sebastian

    For the next 6 months or so, on a weekly basis, the President needs to be seen less in suits & ties and more in shirts, kakis, jeans & sweaters talking to smaller groups of citizens. He needs to take the fight to the Republicans and be relentless in embarassing them for their inaction. He should identify publics works projects in various districts [republican districts] and hammer them.

    September 8, 2011 02:37 pm at 2:37 pm |
  9. Indy

    Republicans have boycotted the will of the people, the credit rating of the people,the peoples economy,the peoples rights, and everything that could move the country in a positive direction so of course they will boycott everything and anything to do with helping the country and the people, this is not new for them remember how quick the boycotted their Jobs,Jobs,Jobs platform. Republicans are the Boycott party.

    September 8, 2011 02:41 pm at 2:41 pm |
  10. Rudy NYC

    I think the Republicans are demonstrating that their party is clearly undeserving of being in a position to be able to lead this country. I pray they don't destroy the country in the process of playing their petulant gamesmanship.

    September 8, 2011 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  11. Sniffit

    "It's not about the cranky Republicans who challenge everything he does."

    Really? If you think that, Borger Bobblehead, then you're truly not paying attention. Obama's job tonight is to lay out a cogent argument for a cohesive, well-articulated plan. Period. We can debate after he makes his speech whether he did so or not. Then, the plan moving forward is to watch the GOP prevent any of it from happening whatsoever, which they will most certainly do. You're not going to see Boehner and Cantor suddenly agreeing that extending the payroll tax is a good idea even though allowing it to expire will create a drag on the economy (hint: they're salivating over that drag)...and if we do, it will only be held hostage with demands of more cuts as ransom. In any case, if Obama has done what he needs to do tonight, then the portion of the country that's not simply pre-disposed to side with the GOP no matter what...the people who decided on November 5, 2008 that they don't really care what Obama says, because no matter what it is they simply won't like it anyway...the rest of the country will be looking at the GOP like they're nuts, again, and the GOP will do more damage to itself than it does to Obama, again. Pay attention to the trends in Teatroll popularity, particualrly after the debt ceiling debacle they created. People are really starting to get sick of the obstruction and ideological puritist positioning and refusal to compromise.

    Nobody who is paying any attention to this harbors any real expectation that anything Obama proposes tonight will actually be enacted, particularly parts of it with proven, positive effects on the economy. Infrastructure improvements are DOA because of that and because they would employ thousands of union construction workers. That's just not acceptabel to the GOP. Really, the question tonight is solely whether Obama will make a good enough case for what needs to be done, present it well and convincing enough that the majority of the country will despise the GOP for refusing to do any of it.

    Your comments on "leadership" are way off base. NO amount of "leadership" can force the GOP House majority to vote a certain way, particularly when they stated from the get-go in January 2009 that they would oppose everything and anything Obama tried to do, hoped he failed and had made it their number one policy initiative above all else to make him a one term president. I'm not putting words in their mouths. They said these things...LITERALLY. "Leadership" can't fix that kind of self-serving stupidity, only survive it and, hopefully, mitigate it.

    September 8, 2011 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |