Ron Paul doesn't budge on Israel
December 7th, 2011
08:35 PM ET
11 years ago

Ron Paul doesn't budge on Israel

Washington (CNN) - GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul held his ground Wednesday against views that he is anti-Israel as he sought to explain his exclusion from a major gathering of conservative Jewish advocates his fellow GOP hopefuls addressed.

Paul was asked in a CNN interview to respond to remarks he made during last month's CNN Republican National Security Debate where he raised concerns about a continued U.S. military presence in Israel, saying, "Why do we have this automatic commitment that we're going to send our kids and our money endlessly to Israel? I think they are quite capable of taking care of themselves."

On Wednesday, he told CNN's Brooke Baldwin, "What you need to do is go and read the speech (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu gave on the house floor here a couple nights ago. He said, 'We don't need American troops. We can take care of ourselves.' That might be worth looking into it."

"We're involved in too many wars and we should be careful on how we go to wars. But if Netanyahu says we don't need our troops over there, why shouldn't I as well?" Paul said on CNN's "Newsroom."

The Texas representative and three-time GOP presidential hopeful was not invited to the Wednesday forum hosted by the Republican Jewish Coalition, which labeled his views "misguided and extreme."

Paul explained his foreign policy views Wednesday, lamenting an over-extension of U.S. resources abroad.

"I think America is in a box," Paul said. "We spend too much money policing the world, getting involved in nation building, we're going bankrupt, we have to borrow the money we're spending overseas. We are in a financial crisis."

According to the CNN/Time/ORC International Polls released Wednesday, Paul came in third behind former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 17% support of likely GOP caucus participants in Iowa, the first voting contest in the GOP presidential primary.

Paul called Gingrich's newfound pre-eminence in the GOP field "the flavor of the week" and described his campaign's rise as much more credible.

"Ours is steady," he said. "People don't come and go once they support our campaign."

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  1. Rick Parry

    How can anyone not listen to Ron Paul at this point? If you don't want our government and freedoms back than keep looking to all the other crooks running. Ron Paul 2012.

    December 7, 2011 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm |
  2. John VanSpronsen

    GO RON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    December 7, 2011 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm |
  3. Rhett

    Dr.Ron Paul President of the United States 2012.

    December 8, 2011 12:12 am at 12:12 am |
  4. Henry Miller

    "I think they are quite capable of taking care of themselves."

    And even if they aren't, it still isn't any of our business. We need to quit wasting our resources on Israel, as well as causing ourselves endless trouble.

    December 8, 2011 12:16 am at 12:16 am |
  5. ikihi

    ron paul 2012!

    December 8, 2011 12:16 am at 12:16 am |
  6. think4free

    Ron Paul is right and shame on the Jewish Coalition for putting anyone on the whipping block if they don't endlessly, endlessly support their one and only self serving views. The Middle East didn't give a hoot about the U.S. until we were dragged into siding with Israel by their Jewish followers here. They gain their power base through money and they bought a bully to protect them. Our deep involvement in the Middle East makes absolutely no sense and serves no ones interest other than Israel. To use the excuse they are our ally is a joke as they have done nothing but put their 'friends' and it seems to be only the U.S., in uncompromising positions with the rest of the world. I see no reason why we have to give them $4B annual charity while we have so much suffering at home. Why don't Israel pay us for our protection–why is it always this one way street with them. Anyone with a different perspective, no matter how true or sane that do not support their position is automatically label an anti-semite. Even the Jewish majority that disagrees with Israel are silent. So it matters not the they, me, we, you, their god, that god–anyone, anyone who speaks not in the way they want is against them. If your not Jewish, you're an anti-semite; if you're Jewish who disagrees then your a traitor and will be excommunicated by your community–no money for you. Well if you call my valid concern for this country over yours, that I want the country I chose to live in advance first, then go ahead call me that magic word and I'll call you anti-other-people. The Middle East didn't give a hoot about the U.S. until we went over there and started messing around in that area and stood by being Israel's bully. Other people suffers from injustice too–not just Israel, and there are other countries and people here in the states in more dire need of the $4 billion dollar annual charity than Israel. (Israel gets the largest amount of U.S. foreign aid/charity.) Why? This country first and if you don't like that, then you're anti-American. Foreign aid should be done through private charities–I want my tax dollars to serve American needs. When we fixed our own problems and have a clearer head, we could reach out to help others–it makes no sense fixing your neighbor's home before you've fixed yours. Politicians should also serve the interests of Americans first. And please, for the record, 911 was because of our dragged along support for Israel–the Mastermind said so in his first video manifesto–about 3/4 of that video was on this point. But good luck finding that whole video, there's a black out on it, and who controls are large percentage of junk media? We have no business in Israel, but Israel has business for us. The people of the world in this country first.

    December 8, 2011 12:19 am at 12:19 am |
  7. jennifer geddie

    I agree with Dr Paul on this issue and I am now a Democrat . I believe most Americans are inagreement that we need to build AMERICA before WE become a third world country !

    Are we opposed to aid for other nations ? No, not for nations that are desperate for " humanitarian " purposes that represent crisis or suffering .

    However, we are foolish to give large amounts of money to developed nations like Israel , when American taxpayers are frequently struggling to pay for healthcare . How about the fact that the citizens of this nation have had FLAT wages as the cost of living rises for approx. 20 years ? Times are hard here for most Americans , with the exception of the top economic eschelon protected by the GOP.

    I do not agree with all that Paul purposes , but he has guts to take this position . Most Americans agree with him . Just because we do not want to give billions to a developed nation like Israel does not mean we ar ANTI ISRAEL . And our
    support for Israel does not imply that we approve of of any inhumane treatment of the Palestinian people either!

    December 8, 2011 12:21 am at 12:21 am |
  8. Tim

    So saying we need to be able to take care of our selves(USA) first is anti-Israel?

    What planet are you from?
    What part of conservative did you not understand?

    Picking words, and slack stacking status is corrupt and should be consider bias and criminal, not giving equal time and status to run-time simply because your a corporation representative.

    Come Dec 16th I am donating, this will be the first time in my life. I a Jew will donate to a politician. Go Ron Paul.

    December 8, 2011 12:25 am at 12:25 am |
  9. arlingtonvagoper

    If Netanyahu actually spoke to our congress and said they're fine without our troops I guess there shouldn't be much of an issue. I was semi-taken aback by Paul's comment's previously but I'm beginning to think the media may be over-blowing this. The guy says he would stop sending billions to every country so we can deal with our economic problems at home and the headline's read "Ron Paul doesn't support Isreal." Silly really.

    December 8, 2011 12:26 am at 12:26 am |
  10. PaulPOTUS

    Common CNN how can there be no comments on a Ron Paul Article? Discriminate much? Ron Paul is exactly right on Israel. They need to control their own destiny. We are doing no good acting like a parent that can never let their child grow up and always having a basement to crash in. There is a big movement in Israel to move toward peaceful and sensible interactions with the countries around them, but as long as the US continues to interfere the same group of hard line "conservatives" will continue to push for militarism and oppression of Gaza and Palestine.

    December 8, 2011 12:32 am at 12:32 am |
  11. Thinker

    He's right. I came, and I will never go. The man is honest as can be, and doesn't waver. We need someone like that in the White House. Ron Paul 2012!

    December 8, 2011 12:42 am at 12:42 am |
  12. Nick

    "Stop and consider America’s policy: We give $3 billion a year to Israel in loans; and we give $12 billion or more in assistance to Israel’s self-declared enemies. Some of these are countries that say they will drive Israel into the sea."

    -Ron Paul

    December 8, 2011 12:52 am at 12:52 am |
  13. Paula Morgan

    Good lord can this man not like anything about the United States of America a proud country, we stand tall and high. I would never vote for a man who can not even like another country as he does not like the prime minster to Israel.. I feel sad for this man I am more then sure many people will not vote for him. Our country has many Jewish and none Jewish people who are tired of Men running to rule a country they never can. Wake up. He is not the man for our Country.!!! He does not have to say it out loud but he hates Jewish People shame on you!!!

    December 8, 2011 12:53 am at 12:53 am |
  14. Nick

    "I think that some not only misunderstand the American Constitution and the role we should have in the world, they also misunderstand Zionism. Part of the original idea of Zionism, as I understand it, was that there should be Jewish independence and Jewish self-reliance. Today, America doesn’t want anyone to be self-reliant. We want to rule the world and be the saviors of the world and we are going broke in the process."

    –Ron Paul

    December 8, 2011 12:58 am at 12:58 am |
  15. pete4808

    One of three things is going to happen:
    1. Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination and runs as a third party candidate: The new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll suggests Ron Paul would win 18 percent as a third-party candidate running against Obama and Romney. Obama wins.
    2. Ron Paul drops out: fervent and stubborn Ron Paul supporters stay home or write him in. Obama wins.
    3. Ron Paul gets the GOP nomination: Ron Paul gets the following voters: (a. 2008 Obama voters who thought they were going to get 'Change', (b. 2008 Obama voters who voted to end the wars, (c. the VAST majority of the Independent vote, (d. the entire GOP voting block who dislikes Obama enough to vote for Ron Paul instead. (e. Ron Paul supporters coming out to vote in DROVES. Ron Paul wins.

    December 8, 2011 12:59 am at 12:59 am |
  16. 1776blues

    And he shouldn't have to. The RJC says it has the right to exclude Ron Paul; but do they? Technically yes but in reality no, this is a National public election for president, not an election for who will do the most for Israel. Ron Paul's message of peace is now considered extremism. Go figure the warmongers in the Republican party and their controllers who have unleashed terror upon the world is not extremism! And lets not forget the warmongers in the Democratic party who have the same controllers! No more money or wars for Israel!

    December 8, 2011 01:12 am at 1:12 am |
  17. Thomas

    Ron paul wont sell out , he can't be bought.

    He doesn't have a chance !

    December 8, 2011 01:15 am at 1:15 am |
  18. Joshua

    When you air it out it sounds ignorant to always immediately tie issues with Israel directly to the Jewish faith. The Republican Jewish Coalition should reevaluate their purpose and anyone who supports them should consider whether the Coalition is more interested in the politics of the middle east than the well being of Jewish people in the United States.

    December 8, 2011 01:17 am at 1:17 am |
  19. Richard Cypher

    Ron Paul is right. We should look after ourselves first.

    December 8, 2011 01:29 am at 1:29 am |
  20. Joseph Zrnchik

    You get more of what you subsidize. We subsidize Israeli bellicosity and belligerence and then seem surprized that they have no inducement to seek peace because they are constantly rewarded for waging war and refusing to negotiate in good faith.

    Israel was founded on terror and their attacks were the first example of mass casualty terror. It seems the Stern Gang, the Haganah and the Irgun were all terrorist gangs. Now Israel wants protection from the exact same tactics they used in the King David Motel attacks that slaughtered dozens of innocents.

    They are not an ally of the US. They would prefer to lie us into war and do not care if they destroy the US to promote Israel.

    December 8, 2011 01:34 am at 1:34 am |
  21. Thaddeus S. Kaczor, Jr.

    "Ron Paul doesn't budge on Israel"

    More like 'Ron Paul remains consistent on Israel'- and every other position, unlike the pandering flip-floppers he is running against. Just because he refuses to pander to the RJC, he is slammed. How about reporting on how the RJC is basically a front for the largest Political Action Committee in the Country- AIPAC- which depends on continued funneling of US foreign aid to Israel, most of which comes with strings directing that money straight into the coffers of AMERICAN Military Contractors!

    Let me get this straight, Ron Paul opposes aid to Israel, at the same time opposing aid to Israel's ENEMIES, which is SEVEN TIMES greater than that given to Israel! How in the world of Critical Thinking can THAT be seen as 'Anti-Israel' or even 'anti-Semitic'? Seems like it is merely anti-status-quo, refusing to feed the Trillion-Dollar War Profiteering Machine. I guess if he were taking contributions from lobbyists for the MIC (like the rest of the field), he would prbably have been invited to the RJC 'anointing'.

    Perhaps Ron Paul finds his principles, character and reputation (and the better interests of his COUNTRY) more important than political pandering and fund-raising.

    December 8, 2011 01:53 am at 1:53 am |
  22. Peikovianii

    Ron Paul is going all the way to the GOP Convention with a solid 8% of the delegates and no impact.

    December 8, 2011 01:55 am at 1:55 am |
  23. brown

    Ron Paul is the only candidate who speaks the truth.

    Gingrich is one the original architects of the mess we have in Washington, D.C.
    Romney is an AIPAC biiiatch who will say anything to get elected

    My vote goes to Ron Paul

    December 8, 2011 02:41 am at 2:41 am |
  24. DA

    Okay in this case, I totally agree with Ron!!! It is time to stop sending money, people, and our Carte Blanche attitude of helping them to that Country

    December 8, 2011 04:17 am at 4:17 am |
  25. Jim McClarin

    Paul is the only Republican to poll better than Obama, and by a substantial margin, among independent voters. He also has enormous support among the troops according to FEC campaign donation filings, more than all other candidates combined, including the president.

    December 8, 2011 04:27 am at 4:27 am |
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