February 9th, 2012
02:23 PM ET
11 years ago
Contraception controversy consumes D.C., campaign
(CNN) - Congressional Democrats and Republicans escalated their rhetorical war Thursday over a pending federal rule requiring religiously affiliated employers to provide full contraception coverage to women - one day after hints emerged of a possible compromise between the White House and conservative religious critics.
Numerous rank-and-file Democrats urged the White House not to back away from its support for the rule, while Republicans demanded a full retreat.
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instead of forcing insurance to cover birth control it would be more economical to force food stamp recipients to use birth control.every food stamp recipient i have ever known(and i know a lot of them)spits out another kid when their child is almost grown so they dont lose their food stamps.
Pelosi said, this is a stimulus package, control the growth of poor people and you have to pay less welfare.
Name of Religion dominate woman liberty happening here
I would like to personally thank Obama and the leftist Democrats for yet another example of their radical left, unconstitutional approach to governing this country. I was truly looking forward to the June surprise the USSC had for them but this gives the American public 5 additional months to see and hear the socialists/"progressives"/communists in action, shredding the Constitution.
As if the stinking pile known as Obamacare wasn't unconstitutional enough already, with its forced purchase of a private product, now they want to use it to trample on the religious teachings of some Americans. Obama is supposed to have taught a course on constitutional law! How scary is THAT!! Obama is not a scholar but a rigid leftist ideologue that will not even heed the warnings of his closest advisors. Some day he will have the courage to disclose just how much of a leftist he is. Castro and Chvez have NOTHING on him.
If the hospitals are non-profit and do not receive any government funding, then they have they should be exempt. However if they are for profit (remember the business of religion is based on that premise) and / or do receive any type of government funding, then they should be accountable for providing all services in a medical policy.
@hamsta - So, once every 18 years ? The nerve of them.
All you have to do is read the works of Saul Alinsky or William Ayers to understand what Obama is doing. These are the creeds of the corrupt unions that stole the election for him.
Naive bible-bangers wake up or get lost. All civilized societies use contraceptives. You make the US look like a bunch
of uneducated and naive fools.
Freedom of religon are the individual freedoms. Nothing in this legislation forces an individual to take birth control.
Once again much adoo about nothing.
I am wondering why men are very bitter on this issue. Does this mean women know nothing about religion????
I wonder if the insurance policies already cover Viagra or Cialis????
@Truth – I am not sure wheter this is a good thing or not at this point. There are conflicting rights here. Please tell me: Does this rule require any individual Americans to take birth control against their religious convictions? Is this preventing any individual Americans the right to go to church and worship as they please?
Thanks Robot Romney for providing the country with another battle (he fanned the flames of this controversy by telling everyone to go against it). "My beliefs are better than your beliefs... nah nah nah nah nah nahhhhh". It's like watching a bunch of children. Grow up people.
Another reason why health coverage should not be tied to employment.
Liberals preach about "separation of church and state" yet ignore it now.
Libs only use their arguments when it suits their agenda.
@Truth – Are you a Constitutional scholar? Why should anyone accept your opinion regarding the Constitutionality of anything? President Obama knows more about the Constitution that you will ever know and certainly will ever understand.
@ Sorensen – your spot on. I'm catholic- born catholic – raised catholic – and I know a lot of "catholics" that use contraceptives. They know it's against their religion & etc. It's No Different that other religions, I mean, take a look at the baptists, the Lutherans, The Mormons – as a matter of fact, I know Mormons that smoke / drink coffee / and They Still Attend their Church Services, & Go To their Church, every Week
California Consevative
Liberals preach about "separation of church and state" yet ignore it now.
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1. It is already law in 28 states, which means 80% of catholic *businesses* already do it.
2. A church is a church, which has nothing to do with it.. A hospital or a university is a business.
3. The administration is telling the Catholic church that not all of their employees are Catholics, and that the church cannot impose their ideology against anyone and everyone, while holding their livelihood over their heads like an axe.
4. Most women want this. Most Americans want this. It is mostly only the "good old boys" mens club in conservative circles that are doing the complaining.
5. The rule applies to more than just the Catholic church. What if a man who works for the Watchtower Society needs for one of his kids, who live with is ex-wife, to have a kidney transplant with a sibling? The Republican view says that the Watchtower Society has a right not to cover the surgery because it requires blood transfusions and transplants, both of which are banned by Jehovah's Witnesses.
If I remember well, it was two years or so ago when Vatican allowed the use of condoms due to the killer disease – AIDS. Before it was forbidden due to Catholic beliefs. I don't see any sounding reason why the use of contraceptives should be exceptional.
If women don't speak out loudly, then the silent of their voices is consent for men to decide for them.
even when you tell the followers facts, they still deny it as that, and come up with a whole different story..........Analyze the FACTS, keep the storytelling to the gold/carbonite/emergency food/tea salesmen, thats what they get paid to do!
Don't tell me...Catholic priest are humans too and would resort to contraceptive as a concealed weapon..
I've been catholic pretty much my entire life. When my daughters were teenagers I kept a plateful of "amnesty" condoms in their bathroom and advised them that I didn't care if they used them for a water balloon fight – they just better not bring me grandbabies! The older daughter & her husband have one child – born with both were in their mid-twenties and with good jobs. Frankly, I find this entire "controversy" overblown by the right and believe they should back off before they alienate all but their most hardcore base.
This is all a minor dust-up the extreme rightwing radicals and phony "christians" are playing up to fuel their sense of victimization and to distract voters from their pitifully flaccid field of failed clown car candidates. More than half of Catholics support President Obama on this one.