March 27th, 2012
05:18 PM ET
11 years ago

Carville: A Supreme Court loss will help Democrats

(CNN) - While the Obama administration fights to protect the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act, Democratic strategist and CNN contributor James Carville said a Supreme Court overruling may not be such a bad thing for the president, politically.

"I think this will be the best thing that has ever happened to the Democratic Party," Carville said Tuesday on CNN's "The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer."

He added: "You know, what the Democrats are going to say, and it is completely justified, 'We tried, we did something, go see a 5-4 Supreme Court majority'."

Carville, who gained fame working on Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign, predicted health care costs will only increase in the future, in which case Republicans will be to blame for leading the drive to expel a federal program designed to help Americans cover those costs.

"Then the Republican Party will own the healthcare system for the foreseeable future. And I really believe that. That is not spin," Carville said.

Republican and RedState.com editor Erik Erikson, meanwhile argued that an overruling would represent more mainstream sentiments than not.

"Both sides, not just the Democrat side, even if the laws were upheld or struck down, there is a 5-4 conservative majority, and historically you see Republicans picking justices who have a greater propensity to gravitate to the left than you see Democrat judges propensity to gravitate to the right," Erikson, also a CNN contributor, said. "This will be an undercurrent issue for both sides, though."

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soundoff (153 Responses)
  1. Jason Burtnstein

    'James Carville said a Supreme Court overruling may not be such a bad thing for the president, politically'.......

    James Carville would say anything to make you believe that the Democrats are always doing the right thing. JAMES, IT WILL BE A DISASTER FOR OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA ARE FED UP WITH THE FALSE PROMISE OF "HOPE AND CHANGE" AND THEY WILL BE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR ON ELECTION DAY 2012

    March 27, 2012 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm |
  2. jschmdt

    and perhaps with people realizing that Obama in a 2nd term would be able to appoint more liberal judges, perhaps they may say no to that and vote against him. More liberal judges will change the direction of the country for decades.

    March 27, 2012 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm |
  3. Matt Phinish

    Maybe it will be good for the DNC, but it will also be good for the citizens. Getting rid of bad law to make room for good law.

    March 27, 2012 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm |
  4. pokey

    We have a Supreme Court controlled by politically motivated left wing radicals that are arrogant about what they see as their right to impose their personal opinions instead of following the law.
    These are the activist judges who kleptoparasitic leftists complains about – but only when they aren't doing their bidding.

    March 27, 2012 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm |
  5. normajean @ verizon ,com

    I've lost all faith in the Supreme Court since I have read about several of their judgements followed by the case of Justice Thomas and his very active and very vocal ""Tea Party"": wife.... If there ever was an excuse to impeach a Supreme Court judge......this is it!!!!!

    March 27, 2012 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm |
  6. allahobama

    The communists will lose either way. FREEDOM isn't free and neither is "free" healthcare.

    March 27, 2012 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm |
  7. Ron in Ca.

    Really good for the Dems??? If it falls it will prove they were wrong all along. The sad part is they knew it but we're so arrogant they thought they could shove it down the publicis throat. From the beginning the Dems should have been more bipartisan. If they had we would not be here now.

    March 27, 2012 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm |
  8. S. B. Stein E.B. NJ

    The Democrats need to be prepared with either outcome. From what little I heard about today, it doesn't sound like Kennedy is going to go with the conservatives on this one. There need to be projections of how high rates are going to go and make people aware of it as a loss of the health care law.

    March 27, 2012 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm |
  9. IdiotSpotter

    Any fair minded person, who watched the proceedings in their entirety, shoud be DISGUSTED by the way the liberal (not moderate, not "left-leaning", but hard left LIBERAL) judges actually assisted the government's attorney in making his case. The stuttering, poorly prepared soliciter couldn't defend the indefensible, and yet there you had Kagen actively assisting him to make his case. She's there to CHALLENGE, not ASSIST.

    You intellectually dishonest left-wingers don't seem to notice this clear indication of how impartiality is non-existant on the liberal side of the court, but can't wait to blast the other justices for doing exactly what they're supposed to.

    March 27, 2012 10:47 pm at 10:47 pm |
  10. Jim Madison

    NVa NAtive, if you are right, Congress can order you to join and worship in a church of their choosing. Don't worry though; hardhats and lightning rods will be supplied for free.

    March 27, 2012 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm |
  11. Truth Is

    No party owns healthcare. Carville is a true Democrat trying to snatch victory from Obama's defeat. The true victors of Obamcare being rejected are the American people. The attempt of moving America into Socialism will hopefully die with Obama's defeat in November.

    March 27, 2012 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm |
  12. iambicpentamaster

    James, remember, it's the economy, stupid.

    It's not about your Obamessiah's Obamacare...

    March 27, 2012 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm |
  13. clayman

    You say they are "politically motivated right wing radicals"? Its been talked about how at least two maybe three of the court members that have been appointed by Republican Presidents may be pulled toward upholding the ACA. While not a one of the Democrat appointees is even expected in any way to even consider not voting according to party convention. At least the so called "right wing" justices seem to be open to discussion and capable of judging on the merit of the arguement and the law, where as the political motivations of the others is so apparant its not even questioned how they will vote. But that is why they are there, isn't it. Not to consider the law or the constitution but because their vote is never in question.

    March 27, 2012 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm |
  14. Terry Moore

    Silly Carville nothing will help the democrats this Nov.......period.

    March 27, 2012 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm |
  15. ranger

    Do all you supporting obamacare really understand the US Constituition and its intended purpose to limit the federal goverments power?

    March 27, 2012 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm |
  16. bbs428

    LOL! Oh how the little kitties scream when things don't go their way!

    If the situation were reversed and the Bush's were making a power grab some of you would be tossing your lunch. I would feel the same way against a progressive right winger like Bush, as I do against a radical lefty like Obama. The Gov. has no business having their noses up my business, or their hands in my wallet.

    I'm counting on these justices to do their job's and uphold their oaths to the country they serve.

    Let's hope that the constitution of the USA prevails instead of the left's lunacy at so called "fairness" for all, which always turns out bad for the working men and women of the country. You cannot legislate motivation to work nor the hunger for honest success in the personal life or professional life.

    If you want socialisim – get out and go live in some two-bit dictator's country for a spell. You'll come back with a different attitude.

    March 27, 2012 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm |
  17. Graham G

    He's ignoring the fact that a vast majority of Americans – both in a Fox News and CNN poll – want the law overturned.

    Obama: campaign on closing Guantanamo, sign law allowing murder and indefinite detainment of US citizens without due process. Keep it classy!
    The truth hurts...Obama.

    March 27, 2012 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm |
  18. John F. Kennedy

    “I think this will be the best thing that has ever happened to the Democratic Party,”

    James Carville

    Me too, James. Exploiting this unconstitutional power grab will hasten the demise of your party. People are waking up to the fact that you are the least productive members of society who are all but worthless in the free market, and that you can only exist off the backs of genuine value producers by way of force. Not to worry. The neocons aren't far behind. They are only liberals with a twist after all.

    Sing it with me:

    Happy days are here again
    The skies above are here again
    Let us sing a song of cheer again
    Happy days are here again!

    March 27, 2012 11:27 pm at 11:27 pm |
  19. Dave In Arizona

    "A Supreme Court loss will help Democrats" Is Carville on drugs or suffered some sevier head trauma?

    March 27, 2012 11:27 pm at 11:27 pm |
  20. calvin

    No supreme judge should have a right or lrft view. there job is to watch that the laws do not be come right or left wing laws. so impeach them all and git new one in.

    March 27, 2012 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm |
  21. Wilson

    If the Obama folks have Carville out there spinning like this, you know they believed they've lost the case.

    March 27, 2012 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm |
  22. Anonymous

    Can we say... DAMAGE CONTROL!

    March 27, 2012 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm |
  23. mrmacg00

    ??? I am really puzzeled by these few post. What part of critical thinking are you using or do you just spout with out
    any real knowledge? I am unemployeed and can not afford health insurance and as far as I am concerned our nation is broke and can not afford it either. Politicians stated it would cost us 900 billion to implement it and now the CBO says it will be more like 1.7 trillion Dollars. Yet we borrow 30 percent for every dollar we spend?

    Yep I can see how these death panels will work and how long the lines will be just to see a doctor. Good luck witj your
    health care. I would rather livein a sane world than you utopia!

    March 27, 2012 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm |
  24. Chicagoland2004

    Listening to the audio of the arguments it became clear that the solicitor was struggling. Tax on day one became penalty on day two then became penalty tax finally. Aggregrating costs and future market entrance arguments were limp and couldn't stand on their own. But none of that gets in the way of you who simply want to blame the right and yet don't actually listen to the case. Typical radicals "don't trouble me with logic or truth or the Constitution."

    March 28, 2012 12:06 am at 12:06 am |
  25. Facts

    Carville is officially off his rocker.

    We wasted 2009 and 2010 on this, ignoring the economy.

    Does he WANT to see Obama Fail?

    March 28, 2012 12:08 am at 12:08 am |
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