Biden defends Obama's debate, casts Romney as flip-flopper
October 4th, 2012
04:18 PM ET
8 years ago

Biden defends Obama's debate, casts Romney as flip-flopper

Council Bluffs, Iowa (CNN) - In the face of bruising headlines and public opinion that President Obama did not bring his A-game for Wednesday's presidential debate, Vice President Joe Biden rallied to the president's side - disagreeing with dominant public opinion and essentially casting Romney as a flip-flopper.

"I thought the president did well. He was presidential," Biden said after reporters asked him about the president's widely panned debate performance.

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In the next breath, the vice president turned the tables – panning Romney's performance, instead.

"You just never know what … position that Governor Romney is going to come with," Biden said. "I mean, the centerpiece of their economic policy so far has been a tax cut. And last night I, we found out he doesn't have a $5 trillion tax cut."

"I guess he outsourced that to China or something," Biden added. "I don't know if that's off-shored. But it's hard to figure out what Gov. Romney's position is on a number of issues. But I think as time goes on, meaning days, it's going to become pretty clear that Gov. Romney has either changed a number of his positions or didn't remember some of his positions."

Biden's comments came during a stop at a Hy-Vee grocery store in Council Bluffs, ahead of a campaign in the city. They echoed a slam from the president himself. At a Denver campaign event, before Biden's, the president mocked that "the real Mitt Romney" could not have on stage with him.

Both men press that Romney has proposed $5 trillion in tax cuts that would help the wealthy and harm the middle class. Romney repeatedly denied that characterization and insisted his plan would not add to the deficit.

Independent fact checkers have sided against President Obama's claim.

Performing a fact check, CNN anchor John Berman ruled the claim as false because of Romney's intention to offset the tax cuts by eliminating as yet unspecified loopholes and lowering deductions.

Berman rated Romney's claim that his plan would not add to the deficit as incomplete.

Meanwhile, also ruled the president's claim as false.

Filed under: 2012 • Iowa • Joe Biden • Presidential Debates
soundoff (81 Responses)
  1. Dan5404

    Obama is not wrong on that tax cut. Romney is on tape, saying he will cut taxes 20% across-the-board. However, he has no details on how he would pay for it. Until he details that, Obama's statement stands.

    October 5, 2012 04:06 am at 4:06 am |
  2. whatajoke

    @Kala Spot on!

    I predict a Rocky-style comeback in the coming debates. They always go down in the first few, it just makes it that much more dramatic!

    October 5, 2012 04:58 am at 4:58 am |
  3. Truthbefreedom

    Everyday guy where do you think the government gets its money from? It gets it from taxes and if it can't get enough money to cover its expenses it borrows the money from other people/countries. If we keep running this country as a piggy bank for special interests and polictal contributers then soon our money will be worth dirt because we will owe more than we could ever pay back. When this happens you will be have to pay so,etching like $100,000 for a loaf of bread or gallon of milk. This will happen sooner than you think if we keep running the country the way we are. However if we look at our fiscal books like a business would we would see we need to make money to spend money. Romney knows how to take companies that are on the brink of closure and turn them around. We need somebody like that to run our country now!

    October 5, 2012 05:12 am at 5:12 am |
  4. Milton K. Wiah

    I am not an American but I think American are stupid. Even if you think Obama is bad enough, would replace
    him with this guy who changes position on everything. How would he even do things he promised
    in this campaign.
    He just panders to the polls. When American people they like that, he changes his position.
    He will kill dream act but when polls indicate most Americans want to do something, he agrees with
    the president decision to keep visa waiters for those children by their parents.
    He stood by what he said about 47%, never said it is wrong until after the election, he is now wrong.
    how could anyone listen to this man.

    October 5, 2012 06:34 am at 6:34 am |
  5. Dejavu65

    Biden is right on...Romney is going to look like an idiot after all the lies he told over and over...It won't be allowed anymore...No wonder they call this guy Mr Flip flop and the Great Etch a Sketch...He flipped more than a US Gymnast!! Cant trust a word this guy says sorry...At least stand for something Romney...Obama 2012!!

    October 5, 2012 06:38 am at 6:38 am |
  6. Dejavu65

    Romney the greatest flip flop in the history of politics....Middle class we cannot trust this man period!! Once in office you can forget about every promise to middle class its over!!

    October 5, 2012 06:39 am at 6:39 am |
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