Ryan pushes country not revenge in Ohio
November 3rd, 2012
01:04 PM ET
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Ryan pushes country not revenge in Ohio

Marietta, Ohio (CNN) - In Ohio Saturday morning Paul Ryan said President Barack Obama's comment about voting being the "best revenge" showed how the Democratic incumbent is "appealing to our lowest fears."

With just three days left in the race the GOP presidential campaign is seizing on the remark to illustrate how Obama's message differs from their own, which they say is a more positive message of change.

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"And in 2008 he appealed to our highest aspirations, now he's appealing to our lowest fears. You know, just yesterday he was asking his supporters at a rally to vote out of revenge. Mitt Romney and I are asking you to vote out of love of country," the vice presidential nominee said. "We don't believe in revenge. We believe in change and hope. We actually do."

Obama was campaigning in Springfield, Ohio when he altered a usual refrain from his stump speech that caught the attention of his opponents.

"No, no, no – don't boo, vote," Obama said Friday. "Vote. Voting is the best revenge."

That evening, in West Chester, Romney responded, "Our big dreams will not be satisfied by his small agenda that already failed us. Today, did you see what President Obama said today? He asked his supporters to vote for revenge – for revenge. Instead I ask the American people to vote for love of country."

And that became the subject of a new television ad released Saturday by the Romney-Ryan team.

At a rally in southeastern Ohio, in a county that voted for GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain in 2008, Ryan said the president has not delivered on promises he ran on four years ago.

"He said he'd cut the deficit in half, that he'd get people working again, and he'd create jobs. You see all those jobs here in Marietta?"

Ryan continued, "Look, it sounded good and when he got elected people naturally expected him to deliver those results but it didn't happen and look what we got. Washington is more divided than it ever has been before. And the deficit, it double from what he said it would be."

After Ohio the vice presidential hopeful will speak at campaign events in Florida, Virginia, and Pennsylvania.

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soundoff (34 Responses)
  1. They ought to change from the elephant to the hippo...

    I think people will do both. If everybody takes your advice, they actually get both! It's a heads we win, tails you LOSE argument!

    Obama 2012

    November 3, 2012 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  2. rs

    I dunno, with all the voting shenanigans the GOP has pulled and has in process (the mess in Florida, the attempts to keep legal citizens from voting, etc.) in many GOP-controlled states, they do deserve punishment- whether it be federal sanctions (as they themselves waged against ACORN) or not may be debatable. I agree however with the idea one way they may learn is by losing at the polls.

    As this camapign goes on, I have to wonder what impact Romney/Ryan's relentless untruthful tactics will cause.

    Who wants people running our country who refuse to tell the truth? How can they be even remotely considered moral?

    November 3, 2012 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  3. Kr55

    The best thing that can come out ts election is a temporary halt of this tea party stooges career. Hopefully the country smartens up before he has an opportunity again to get near the whitehouse.

    November 3, 2012 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  4. ThinkAgain: All of the GOP's policies are PROVEN FAILURES

    David Stockman, Reagan's former budget director, has called Munster's budget (which Mittens supports), an "empty conservative sermon" and "fairy tale" and says it will "do nothing to reverse the nation's economic decline and arrest its fiscal collapse."

    Obama/Biden 2012 = The only sane choice

    November 3, 2012 01:30 pm at 1:30 pm |
  5. ThinkAgain: All of the GOP's policies are PROVEN FAILURES

    David Stockman, Reagan's budget director, has said of Mittens he was not a businessman; he was a master financial speculator who bought, sold, flipped, and stripped businesses.

    Mittens did not build businesses the old-fashioned way; instead, Mittens spent his 15 years raising huge amount of debt on Wall Street so that Bain Capital could purchase the "pots and pans and castoffs of corporate America,
    leverage them to the hilt, gussy them up as reborn roll-ups,” and then deliver them back to Wall Street for resale—the faster the better.

    Obama/Biden 2012 = The only sane choice

    November 3, 2012 01:30 pm at 1:30 pm |
  6. ThinkAgain: All of the GOP's policies are PROVEN FAILURES

    The $2 trillion in additional spending Mittens 'n' Munster are proposing are NOT requested by the military; they have been requested by military contractors who want to soak American taxpayers once again.

    Obama/Biden 2012 = The only sane choice

    November 3, 2012 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
  7. ThinkAgain: All of the GOP's policies are PROVEN FAILURES

    A $5 trillion revenue shortfall would result from Mittens tax plan, according to the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Mittens' idea of tax code reform is to cut taxes further on the wealthy, eliminate the estate tax and make up the revenue shortfall by cutting social spending and increasing taxes on the middle class and working poor.

    Obama/Biden 2012 = The only sane choice

    November 3, 2012 01:32 pm at 1:32 pm |
  8. ThinkAgain: All of the GOP's policies are PROVEN FAILURES

    Folks, when you consider who'll you will be voting for, keep in mind that Mittens 'n' Munster lie through their teeth. President Obama's economic policies have resulted in 32 straight months of private sector job growth, made more amazing by the FACT that the Republicans have done everything they can to keep him from succeeding AND when President Obama took office, our economy was losing 800,000 jobs A MONTH.

    Obama/Biden 2012 = The only sane choice

    November 3, 2012 01:33 pm at 1:33 pm |
  9. ThinkAgain: All of the GOP's policies are PROVEN FAILURES

    The Ryan budget cuts spending that benefits the majority of Americans, including the most vulnerable among us; doesn't touch military spending, even though our own generals have made recommendations of where cuts can be made without jeopardizing our security; and makes tax cuts for the rich permanent, even though the last 10 years has PROVEN that doing so DOES NOT result in job creation here in the U.S.

    If you don't believe me, check out the CBO reports about how the Ryan budget adds trillions to our deficit. And check out the Nuns on The Bus website, which details the tour currently underway by Catholic nuns explaining how the Ryan budget is immoral in the way it targets our most vulnerable citizens to funnel more money to the wealthiest.

    Obama/Biden 2012 = Not only the only sane choice; the only MORAL choice

    November 3, 2012 01:33 pm at 1:33 pm |
  10. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    This guy Ryan just wants to be VP or President, he has no compassion for no one and he's proven it with his "Ryan Budget Plan" that's why Romney'Ryan won't talk about it but you better believe it when they say "we'll tell you after" if elected. After is too late people.

    November 3, 2012 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  11. rameshkate

    Dirty and last-minute desperate try to spin one's well intended remark. America faces problems on many fronts- poverty, unequality, inequity, discrimination, racism, lack of opportunity, etc. and voting for President Obama will definitely be a revenge on these social evils. I do not think for a second he was talking about taking revenge on Romney, his political opponents or any human being for that matter. Nice try, but no.

    November 3, 2012 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  12. Matt

    Because the ads from their side haven't been about our "lowest fears"

    November 3, 2012 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  13. Thomas

    Revenge can be sweet when it comes to business and politics , ask Romney himself.
    I forgot he hasn't given press interviews for two weeks .

    I'l take take anger and frustration over Romney's fear and hate any day.

    One motivates the other destroys .

    November 3, 2012 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  14. logi_101

    The right wing extremists, the party of hatred, the party og bigotry, the part who waged a war on women., waged a war on Americans, waged a war on thmiddle class is sending Ryan the bugeteer who steals from the poor, steals from veterans, steal from everyone not in the 1% to pay for the excesses of tax cuts. He keeps going the lie which has plagued America that jobs are created when we cut taxes. 65 years of trickle down, suppy side treason has resulted in ZERO created jobs a 65 year Bad experiment that could never have worked because demand creates jobs, not tax cuts. In the same 65 years there were tax increase, they resulted in a net GAIN in job creation. Why the negative correlation? One can only assume that the tax increases were viewed as taking resposibility for our debt and thus inspired confidence. One only hears blame from the right, and more of the same that got us here in the first place. from Ayn Rand's disciple, you are poor because you are lazy, from Romney you are are takers. Romney looted pension funds, evaded taxes, appropriated tax money meant to save jobs and profited from it, why didn't you he asks, because all of the 47% are "takers" in Romney's world tax evasion and pension looting are moral and you only have to pay for Swiss account taxes when the IRS offers you a choice, pay up or go to jail. Ryan bad mouthed the bailout of banks like Goldman Sachs and "held his nose" whjile he voted for the bailout, but not until he and his right wing buddies drove Goldman shares down enough for him to invest in Goldman and then and only then hold his nose ( possibly to avoid the stench of his duplicity). Riechfuher Ryan is asking real Americans for thier vote to put in a form of government that we fought against during world war 2. Then the takers were anyone other then the right wing extremists, at least then we heard it in the original German.

    November 3, 2012 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  15. dachozen1

    Americans are gluttons for punishment. Romney/Ryan are offering the same exact plan that President Bush offered with lowering taxes and less regulation. We get what we deserve should Romney win. Rich folks have done a good job of manipulating the masses into thinking low taxes for them create jobs. There has been a recent study that discredited that false logic and President Clinton brought up stat that Democrats created more jobs/less deficits. If Romney wins I hope he does what he says and maybe then Americans don't fall for the whole lower taxes, less regulation economic plan.

    November 3, 2012 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |

    Lies lies lies!
    OHIO is for OBAMA!

    November 3, 2012 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  17. Expat American

    A REPUBLICAN speaking out against fear mongering….that’s truly rich.
    Their entire agenda since 2008 has been fear mongering. Republicans invented fear mongering.
    In fact, Ryan spent the morning dropping off Korans in all the Walmarts in Ohio.

    Pathetic and Laughable!

    November 3, 2012 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  18. anonoymous

    Maybe Romney can find Ryan a job in one of his I know how to create jobs businesses....

    November 3, 2012 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  19. Squigman

    Revenge hell. If you lose, will you and your ilk go away. It's doubtful. If you lose, is it revenge? It was country that inspired me to vote early and did so straight democrat. No revenge was needed. Just common sense.

    November 3, 2012 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  20. tinazwit

    The Repubs are clutching at straws & this merits no response. If anything, Obama should simply take a cue from Romney & say the "revenge" remark was "inelegantly stated".

    November 3, 2012 02:16 pm at 2:16 pm |
  21. ema

    In the wake of the banking crises driven by different rules for the rich, Romney preaches different rules for the rich and paying back the deficit, which amounted to Joe public bailing out the financial sector which continued to give themselves vast bonuses.

    Oh Mitt, just how dumb do you think we are? 😉

    November 3, 2012 02:27 pm at 2:27 pm |

    So Obama sees voting for him as revenge against Romney. Revenge is something you seek when one hates someone. Most people consider seeking revenge an unhealthy practice. Does Obama hate Romney, is Romney an enemy? Dose Obama want those who support Romney to hate him or thinks they hate him and see him as their enemy? Would these feelings of hate not also apply to those who support and vote for Romney? This is not the first tell that those who have a different political view than Obama are viewed as an enemy. In a speech earlier this year Obama told a group of hispanics that Republicans were there enemy. There is no way Obama will ever be able to work with Republicans when he hates them and views them as an enemy instead of fellow Americans with a different point of view. Explains why Obama has spent the last almost two years campaigning against Republicans instead of trying to work with them. If Obama wins, he will be faced with House controlled by Republicans and a Senate with at least enough Republicans to filibuster. Nothing will be changed except the amount of hate Obama has for Republicans. Obama is the most divisive president in our nations history.

    November 3, 2012 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  23. jayross495

    Hey Paul where have you been hiding? After your hiding you come back with another vacuous statement? Is that the best you can do? God help America if you end up in the Whit House. First the fear of a flip flopper without a moral compass for president then a vacuous mind supporting the flip flopper! Hmmn scary!

    November 3, 2012 02:52 pm at 2:52 pm |
  24. GI Joe

    Spin, whine, and lies. They had to bus people in to fill a small space in Marietta. I drove by and saw them. thanks to the Kochs

    November 3, 2012 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  25. bobby johnson

    Obama for telling supporters a day earlier that voting would be their "best revenge."(?) There he goes again, blaming the GOP and anybody else for the last four years of misery. So much not to admire in Obama: takes credit for any success, blames others for his failures.

    November 3, 2012 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
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