Rick Perry doesn't support secession petition on White House website
November 13th, 2012
10:28 AM ET
9 years ago

Rick Perry doesn't support secession petition on White House website

(CNN) – An appeal calling on the federal government to allow Texas to "withdraw from the United States of America" following President Barack Obama's re-election doesn't have the support of the Lone Star State's governor, his office said in a statement Tuesday.

"Gov. [Rick] Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it," his press secretary Catherine Frazier wrote in a statement. "But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government."

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The petition, which had received nearly 65,000 signatures by mid-morning Tuesday, cites continuing "economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending" as the reason for the proposed secession.

"Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government," asserts the petition, which appears on a section of the White House website called "We the People: Your Voice in our Government."

The section was designed to allow citizens to voice their concerns and desires for the federal government, and stipulates that if a petition gets enough support, "White House staff will review it, ensure it's sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response."

The threshold for eliciting a White House response is 25,000 signatures within 30 days, meaning the Texas secession appeal has surpassed the requirements for official administration comment. None has yet been forthcoming.

The fine print notes the White House "may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition."

A host of other states have similar petitions on the "We the People" section of the White House website, including South Dakota, West Virginia, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Alaska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Utah, Wyoming, California, Ohio, New York, Delaware, Nevada and Arizona.

None of those petitions were close to the 25,000-signature requirement for a White House comment.

Other petitions on the website take the opposite tack: an appeal to "strip the citizenship from everyone who signed a petition to secede and exile them" had just over 1,000 signatures on Tuesday.

While Perry's statement Tuesday pushed back against a possible move to secede, the Lone Star governor has expressed support for such a shift in the past.

Speaking to an energetic and angry tea party crowd in Austin in 2009, Perry suggested secession may happen in the future should the federal government not change its fiscal polices.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

During his run for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, Perry clarified that he never used the word "secession."

Texas, America's second biggest state in area and population, was its own nation for 10 years before joining the United States in 1845.

In the statement from Perry's office Tuesday, Texas is held an example for the rest of the nation for its fiscal responsibility.

"Now more than ever our country needs strong leadership from states like Texas, that are making tough decisions to live within their means, keep taxes low and provide opportunities to job creators so their citizens can provide for their families and prosper," the statement read.

CNN's Alex Mooney contributed to this report.

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soundoff (127 Responses)
  1. Mikey

    Of course, Texas would have to pay the U.S. $1.35 trillion for their share of the national debt. They would be entitled to their pro-rata share of the social security fund – but would have to then run their own SS system, if they wanted one. Their citizens would not be eligible for SS in the U.S. if they moved there – that is, if we would allow them green cards. We would have to patrol the border between the U.S. and Texas – it's one thing to have Mexicans sneaking into the country, but Texans???

    November 13, 2012 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
  2. Sean

    Texas – make us an offer. If you want to buy the state's freedom from the union then pay us for the oil, border patrol, military institutions and infrastructure the union owns, then please make an offer. With you out of the picture the union will have the electoral capacity to move forward with a 21st century agenda for business growth, limited religion intervention in public policy and holistic human/civil rights. Many believe it's a good deal for the union. Make an offer and be on your way.

    November 13, 2012 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
  3. austin al

    I live in this state I am glad Travis County is deep blue as well, it can be noted that the Republic of Texas accepted annexation basically because it was mired in debt. So just for the other folks wishing to succeed remember the last time we were a Republic that didn't turn out so well did it. With Governor's Perry using Federal Stimulus money to balance our budget where will we get the money to continue to account for any additional shortfalls that Perry's reckless spending and increasing cronyism is causing this state? Well educating people here isn't a priority when Texas ranks dead 50 among the states for the percentage of adults over 25 with a HS diploma?

    November 13, 2012 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
  4. Z -

    How foolish.

    November 13, 2012 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  5. Is this rationale?

    I understand that the present federal administration is spending more money than the previous
    administration (George Bush from Texas) on border protection. Is this not correct? Could you at least
    the facts (not YOUR facts, but the real ones?)?
    I am under the impression that the right leaning secessionists are basically the same who would make war on Iraq
    and other places, and want a STRONG military of an EXTRA $2 Trillion for defense spending. Why do you hate deficits?
    You seem to want them. And, then you go and talk about seceding. Like where will your Trillions come from to go invade other nations, as you seem to love to do. You secessionists just sound like hurt babies with bruised egos.

    November 13, 2012 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  6. BigandRich

    Please don't let them leave. MAKE them leave; but they can't have Texas or any other state. They should go to a country they like more than they like America. This is really funny. You lose an election and you are ready to run. The thing that makes America great is the willingness of the people to work hard to change it into a better place. It is great to see those who once told anyone who did not like America to leave, are now the ones who no longer want to be a part of America. Take you hate and ignorance and LEAVE, PLEASE and take all the T-Party people and your leaders, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity with you. Oh yeah, don't forget Romney.

    November 13, 2012 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  7. MB

    "Isn't amazing that the people calling for this secession come from states that recieve more federal dollars than they pay in taxes?
    They are the freeloading 47%ers!"

    Go sign the petition to force them to "live within their means." Two can play the petition game.

    November 13, 2012 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  8. jkane sfl gop mascots the blubbering slobs allen west rover nitwitquest rick scott ,carl rove and donald trump ??????

    Does that mean the Dallas cowboys and the texans get kicked out of the NFL ,jerry Jones won't be happy his NFL franchise will be worthless, go patriots!!!!!

    November 13, 2012 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  9. Romney is NOT My Hero

    During his run for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, Perry clarified that he never used the word "secession."

    Yes, and during this same presidential run he clarified that he uses too many hair products, can't remember his own talking points (there were only THREE) and that he's can't even beat the guy who lost to Sarah Palin.

    November 13, 2012 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm |
  10. Sniffit

    My god people.



    Learn it. That is all.

    November 13, 2012 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm |
  11. rick from Texas

    Hey Big Tex Careful bragging about how much energy Texas has. Have you been keeping up on your reading assignments young man?....apparently not.(Education not important here) Pennsylvania ,Ohio,W.Va, Colorado et al are about to move past Texas in energy production in the next 5 years(natural gas and marcelus shale) Texas will become even more insignificant than it is today> And you can keep your out- dated refineries as Cailifornia, La, N.J have enough new online tech to make up for those.

    November 13, 2012 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm |
  12. Matt54

    Rick Perry could finally be President of something, like the "Lone Star Nation".

    November 13, 2012 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  13. Logic n LA

    Interesting that this time around Perry isn't backing the secession- he did 4 years ago. As a matter of fact, he called for it. must be planning another run for President.
    As for the issue itself- go- please go! and take the rest fo the country's wacko with you.

    November 13, 2012 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
  14. Rudy NYC

    During his run for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, Perry clarified that he never used the word "secession."
    An article is posted right here on the Political Ticker blog dated April 16, 2009 11:56 am, discussing Gov. Rick Perry's support for the idea for seceding from the US if the US did not change fiscal policies. Find that article because it quotes Perry discussing secession AND there's a video clip of him doing it.

    The exteme right wing has transported so many of you, like hamsters in a cage, to an artificial reality. It is both pitiful and hilarious to watch as the hamsters run around trying fiigure out what is wrong with the world, while completely ignorant of the fact that they're in hamster cage.

    November 13, 2012 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  15. Ferathka

    I say let them leave. Typical red state using up most of the resources of the federal government. See how well they deal with things themselves. Oh btw before you go make sure you pay us for your share of the national debt and pay us for all the federal land and military bases there too. Enjoy!

    November 13, 2012 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
  16. rick from Texas

    Texas needs to seceed from Rick Perry. ASAP!!!!

    November 13, 2012 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
  17. john

    I'm sure if Texas left all the other red states would go with us.At least we would have a contiguous border.

    November 13, 2012 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  18. Howdydoody

    rick from Texas
    Careful yourself. Texas accounts for roughly 1/4 of the nations oil refining, natural gas production and is the leader in oil production. With the newly found deposits of Methane Hydrates in the Gulf of Mexico Texas and the Gulf Coast States are poised for even larger energy production capabilities. You're list of states combined might be about to surpass Texas, but individually they won't come close. Especially with your Lord and Saviour trying to ban Coal power generation.
    Texas isn't as large of a economy on it's own because it is doing something wrong, infact, despite Federal overreaching of powers Texas is doing suprisingly well. Let me know how the rust belt states are doing on unemployment ect.

    November 13, 2012 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  19. Pander Bear

    Wow! 65k signatures! That means that 0.0025316770245364 percent of the population of Texas wants to form it's own independent country. Given Texas' size that would amount to about 675 acres of land, slightly larger than average for a Texas ranch. Give 'em a compound and build an electric fence around it – to keep them in – and be done with these wackos.

    November 13, 2012 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  20. Pander Bear

    He doesn't support the secession plan because it involves three steps and he can't remember them all. *oops*

    November 13, 2012 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  21. Leonard

    Texas... the nation's leader in oil refining and wind power manufacturing. One of the most robust job growth except in areas saturated by Californian immigrants.

    November 13, 2012 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  22. realneworleans

    Where do I go to sign the Louisiana form?

    November 13, 2012 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  23. Stammer

    Of course Perry doesn't want to leave the Union. As much as he complains about the federal gov't, he takes more money in disaster relief and other aid than any other state does. At least, that was true until Sandy hit; I'm not sure if that changes anything. But still, he sucks on the federal teat far more than most anyone else does.

    November 13, 2012 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  24. myviewis

    Wait a minute, I just looked up Texas and it says they are the largest exporter of goods in the USA and that Texas is the 2nd largest growing economy in the USA and Texas grosses more than $100 Billion a year in trade with other nations. So how can we afford to lose Texas????????

    November 13, 2012 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  25. DumbasRocks [R]s

    Rick Perry doesn't want to secede, because then Texas would loose all that federal revenue that comes from taxes on the blue states. Like most [R]s, he talks the talk, but can't walk the walk. The [R] party is the party of leeches.

    November 13, 2012 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
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