Boehner visits White House for fiscal cliff talks
December 9th, 2012
03:54 PM ET
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Boehner visits White House for fiscal cliff talks

(CNN) - House Speaker John Boehner traveled to the White House Sunday for talks with President Barack Obama on how to avoid the year-end fiscal cliff, according to a statement from the White House.

"We're not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open," White House Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest said.

–CNN Chief White House Correspondent Jessica Yellin contributed to this report.

Filed under: John Boehner • President Obama
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  1. Anonymous

    They have to get this out in the open... Debate it on TV..... Boehner has to let Americans know what he wants to cut .. both in spending and tax reform.... He is still planning to stand on the backs of the middle class.... We need a break, can't he get that ?????

    December 9, 2012 08:04 pm at 8:04 pm |
  2. Ed Fl

    The GOP has openly proven that they are the worst group of Republicans ever to be in the US government at one time .Mccconnell and Boehner are the worst two ,so called leaders in my 83 years. If they were President and Vice president there would not be any doubt as to the worst two leaders ever to be in that position. Boehner could'nt even get his home State to vote for the GOP. Hopefully after his continuing lack of performance he will dissappear in two years. A disgrace well earned.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    December 9, 2012 08:06 pm at 8:06 pm |
  3. CyndyP

    If the Republicans are so convinced that entitlements need to be cut – they should lead by example and cut their pay, benefits and retirement. God know, that haven't earned any of it!

    December 9, 2012 08:11 pm at 8:11 pm |
  4. enriquezusmc

    I'm a middle class Republican that wants Bohener to cut a deal. Most Republicans are ok with accepting the fact that the rich will have to pay more. Trim some spending across the board on programs and there's your deal. If time expires and middle class Republicans have to pay the price for your game of chicken, then watch as the G.OP. loses the support of many middle income earners. We lost an election not a war. Please don't throw all of us under the bus because of your duty to corporate America.

    December 9, 2012 08:24 pm at 8:24 pm |
  5. CT

    Boehner needs to go ahead and give in. All he is doing to stalling the inevitable anyway. On January 1 the taxes for those he is trying to protect (Rich 2%) will go up without or without his agreement. The only difference between now and then is that if he agrees to raise theirs and not the other 98% of American's taxes, Republicans might have a much better chance at holding the house in 2014. If he stonewalls though and does not yield to Obama and the Dems, its going to be enormously difficult for the GOP to retain much of anything in the next couple elections. People are gonna be really pissed at them. All the polls agree btw. Nearly 60% of Americans will blame the GOP if we go over the cliff while only 23% will blame Dems. If you are a republican in DC now, you don't want to go over the cliff.

    December 9, 2012 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  6. Zoq

    Go Big or Go Home. Everyone knows that it is going to hurt. Rich and poor, but we will all be better off for it in a few years. Taxes need to go up, spending needs to go down. Somebody go talk to Paul Martin. He turned Canada around in the 80s. It did hurt for a few years, but he was elected Prime Minister 3 years later after everyone realized how he had changed the financial course of the country forever.

    December 9, 2012 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  7. PJ

    The GOP should stop playing games with our lives. They are sacrificing the entire economy for the sake of the few wealthy who should and would pay more taxes. The Koch Brothers, Karl Rove and Norquist should not be holding us back. Stop the nonsense.

    December 9, 2012 08:41 pm at 8:41 pm |
  8. farmwife

    Boehner is not speaking for the average person. He is a big cry baby and he knows that he is in trouble with his own party. With any luck at all the GOP will come to their senses and not elect him as Speaker of the House again. His allegiance is not to the American people but to Grover Norquist. Rich people care nothing for the poor. They need to pay higher taxes. Look at all the money Romney makes and he only pays 15% tax. There is really something wrong with that. Mr. President stand your ground!!!!!!!

    December 9, 2012 08:59 pm at 8:59 pm |

    Jkane, why do you single out Romney? Aren't you just as concerned about the Kennedy family with their fortune in overseas accounts? Let's not forget the Rockefellers also! The left never seems to care when it is their own that avoid taxes.

    December 9, 2012 09:02 pm at 9:02 pm |
  10. Sagebrush Shorty

    Where is Harry Reid? Perhaps he is explaining to Pelosi what it's all about. Lots of luck with that one, Harry.

    December 9, 2012 09:07 pm at 9:07 pm |
  11. Jt_flyer

    The median household income of boehner's district In ohio is $43,300. Lack of Education is the issue.

    December 9, 2012 09:08 pm at 9:08 pm |
  12. Robyn

    >> 99% of rich people(the self made wealthy) in the USA, got rich the legal way, with hard work and taking risk.

    Check your facts again.
    Except for the United Kingdom, the US has the lowest economic mobility in the industrialized world.

    If your parents are rich, you will be too. If your parents are poor and you live in the US, you are overwhelmingly likely to be poor as well, no matter hard work and risk you undertake. That is my problem with the rich today, they are not entrepreneurs, they are largely the pampered offspring of an American nobility class that is producing NOTHING.

    People living in Canada or Scandinavia, areas that Republicans regularly accuse of being little more than socialist nanny states are over three times as likely to be able to improve their economic condition through hard work as are people living in the US. Mr. Boehner and the Republican Party have staked their future on their own special brand of Republican Socialism. That only the rich are allowed access to, and it is destroying the American Dream for us and for our children.

    December 9, 2012 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  13. enoughis enough

    Hey Ray Georgia. Its time for a fact check. Your party spends WAAAYYY more than any democrat. How does 3 TRILLION DOLLARS for the Iraq war sound? What did we get out of it besides a HUGE debt and 5000 dead soldiers? Yeah,I know it was necessary right? When your party spends money its justifiable but when the dems do it they're high spending liberals right? You Republicans are really a cult and not a political party. No matter what they say you go right along with it. They can tell you the world is flat and you'd believe them. Try to use you own mind to make a decision for once in your life.

    December 9, 2012 09:14 pm at 9:14 pm |
  14. rpm

    whoa joe, easy's just one need to call WW

    December 9, 2012 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  15. Scott in Texas

    This is so not complicated! Raise taxes, cut spending and pay down the debt.

    December 9, 2012 09:25 pm at 9:25 pm |
  16. Kev

    The assumption that the rich just got there by hard work is demonstrably false. For every Horatio Alger, there are 99 others who come from inherited wealth. Most rich people were born that way. Even those who weren't born super-rich still had substantial wealth as the downpayment for their future success. The game is stacked towards those already winning. That's just the way it is. But that's a diversion anyway. The deeper point is that our society, structures and rules are set up to the benefit of the already wealthy and against the poor and working class, no matter how hard working they are. Tax hikes on the richest segment of society are not unfair. BUT, they will bring more money to the table to fortify our infrastructure and they will absolutely NOT lead to a slowdown in production. At the end of the day, true capitalists want to continue making money. Except to the extent that we let them game the system with tax breaks for doing nothing, they will absolutely keep production going wherever they can.

    December 9, 2012 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  17. Thomas

    "Ronald Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes,"

    And he knew wars cost, needing higher government revenue. GW Bush never understood that.

    December 9, 2012 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  18. johngf

    It absolutely astounds me that President Obama is possibly willing to throw the country into a recession because of a belief that revenue from the top wage earners, which will run the governmet for eight (8) days, will solve all the problems. What kind of President was elected? Would some third grade math teacher please make their way to the White House and give him these facts.; or is it simply a case of an arrogant, non-caring and stubborn man having to get his own way and to heck with the consequences?

    December 9, 2012 09:35 pm at 9:35 pm |
  19. Anonymous

    lets go over the cliff you cannot continue to spend spend people need to quit looking to the goverment to support them for life and quit being bama babies

    December 9, 2012 09:44 pm at 9:44 pm |
  20. oneslydragon

    If they come to an agreement gain just to have the Tea party rule the GOP then we are on the way to a 3 party system, possible a 4, ultra right and left and centrists.

    I also find it interesting that the GOP had borrowed the country into bankruptcy and now believe that Social Security is fair game when it is the only game in town for many not in the 2%.

    In current dollars back in 1970 we owed 370,918,706,949.93, Nixon, Ford and Carter up this by 1980 to 907,701,000,000.00, an increase of 536,782,293,050.07, Reagan tripled the debt by 1989 to 2,857,430,960,187.32, an increase of 1,949,729,960,187.32, George the 1st up the debt to 4,188,092,107,183.60, an increase of 1,330,661,146,996.28, Clinton bumped it to 5,727,776,738,304.64 by 2001, an increase of 1,539,684,631,121.04.
    If you remember the GOP kept wanting to privatize Social Security in the late 1990's and still do. George the 2nd 's last budget left the debt at 11,909,829,003,511.70, more than doubling the debt. How? through Borrow and Spend Policies Reagan called tinkle down/voodoo economics. The GOP see debt as the tool to give Medicare and Social Security funding to the wealthy through tax breaks and corporate welfare, something corporate America did with their retirement plans for the average workers, top mismanagement and CEO's got gigantic salaries in the 80's and gigantic bonuses while they looted retirement plans, LTV steel was a great example of looting pension plans of the average to pay dividends and bonuses, just what the GOP is doing to government programs for the average. Creating scenarios that are false facades to hide the facts. Destroy Medicare and Social security and the country all at the same time, come in and loot the left overs at bargain prices.

    The GOP is directly responsible for most of the debt, as well as responsible for creating impudent economic conditions that exasperate the situations to these ends. I refer to the economic recession GWH gave Clinton and the Great Recession GW gave Obama along with 2 wars that were never paid for, The GOP BORROWED the money, more than 6 trillion in borrowing to help the wealthy.

    December 9, 2012 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  21. oneslydragon

    50-75% of all defense spending is wasted thru excessive prices they pay for everything, from toilet paper to bombs to labor contracts used to replace employees at rates that are 2-5 times what would be paid for an employee, of this I am certain, 100% certain. You could run the DoD with same effectiveness with half the money if congress would stop making the contracts so lucrative for the contractors and stop placing stupid rules on the work employees are forced to do.

    December 9, 2012 09:56 pm at 9:56 pm |
  22. Anonymous

    get rid of all the wasted goverment spending and peple who think goverment peograms are there employment pray to god daily and be thankful for what u have not what u want

    December 9, 2012 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  23. michael

    "Political gridlock threatens to plunge us back into recession, ..." That's so true but when the President has agreed to accept some of the Republican proposals, the Republican members of the House refuse to vote for them. They actually refused to vote for their own proposals if the President agrees to accept them. The Republican plan is to block anything the President attempts to do, even if they support it. They have made if quite clear that their #1 goal is to work to make the President fail and they really don't care if the nation fails in the process. That borders on treason as far as I'm concerned. Voters need to understand that they need to elect a Congress that will work with the White House unless they want gridlock. Mid-term elections are so important, yet voters fail to vote. Beohner, Mcconnell and repukitards cannot be trusted with this countries economic recovery!

    December 9, 2012 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  24. CBR

    Speaker Boehner would be wise to broker this deal without Sen. McConnell or Rep Cantor. Neither man is really interested in compromise. They both would love a stalemate which is not what the country needs right now. Hopefully, the President and Speaker can find a way to meet and solve the problem. It seems that ending the Bush tax cuts and coming to an agreement on a middle class tax cut would be a good beginning.

    December 9, 2012 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm |
  25. Fortinbras

    There will be no going over the fiscal cliff. The wealthy actually have more to lose if we go over the cliff rather than paying a 4 percent higher tax rate.

    December 9, 2012 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm |
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