Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'
December 18th, 2012
10:55 AM ET
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Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'

(CNN) – Amid calls for tighter restrictions on guns following last week's deadly rampage in Connecticut, Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry said at a tea party event Monday that anyone with a concealed handgun license in the Lone Star State should be able to take guns on public property – including schools.

"In the state of Texas, with our concealed handgun license, if you have been duly backgrounded and trained and you are a concealed handgun license carrying individual, you should be able to carry your handgun anywhere in this state," said Perry, who later added a person has the right to prohibit guns on their private property.

Provided they have the proper training and license, teachers should have "access to weapons in their school," Perry said. Individual school districts should be able to determine whether or not to allow firearms on their campuses, he said.

At least one school jurisdiction in Texas already allows teachers to carry guns – the Harrold school district, located 175 miles northwest of Dallas, began allowing its employees to carry guns in 2008, as long as they obtained the necessary license.

On Friday, the district's superintendent David Thweatt said the set-up meant his schools were doing everything they could to protect students.

"Is that 100%? No," Thweatt told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "Nothing is 100%. But what we do know is that we've done all we can to protect our children."

The shooting Friday in Connecticut has sparked promises from several federal lawmakers to reintroduce tighter gun control measures, ranging from a reinstatement of a federal ban on assault weapons to banning the sale of high-capacity magazines.

Perry stipulated that lawmakers have a responsibility to "do everything we can to make sure that those types of evils are restricted the best that it can be," but that citizens should be wary of reactive decisions from the federal government.

"One of the things I hope we don't see from our federal government is this knee-jerk reaction from Washington, D.C., when there is an event that occurs that they come in and think they know the answer," Perry said.

On the day of the massacre, Perry requested his state's education commissioner review emergency operation plans in schools, saying it was "essential that we ensure all Texas schools are equipped and ready to carry out a strategic plan to secure the safety of students and staff in the event of a threat such as the one that occurred today."

At the event Monday, Perry also dropped a hint about his political future, including a potential sequel to his failed bid for the 2012 presidential nomination.

The Texas governor said his 2012 run, which ended January, was an "extraordinary experience," and that despite his loss, "I would do it again."

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  1. GlenInCalifornia

    The countries that have strict gun control have a higher per capita deaths by guns than the USA. So it does not work. Is a great idea for to extend where guns can be taken.

    December 18, 2012 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  2. ghostriter

    There are some 120,000 schools in the US. At $50,000 per for a security guard (armed), the cost is $6 billion. The cash strapped schools don't have it, the cash strapped city and state govts don't have it. So, as conservatives are so good as saying these days, why don't you conservatives put your money up instead of sticking us taxpayers for your follies.

    December 18, 2012 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
  3. W.

    Better get good grades or you won't advance to the next class. This is insanity at its most primal form. Then again, this is Texas where execution of an inmate is classified as, "homicide." I will never, ever go to Texas and we suffer a governor from there. All Texans endure a unique form of mental deficiency.

    December 18, 2012 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  4. LakeErie

    All the talk about arming teachers & others to defend themselves is impractical! Police train regularly intensely to be able to instantly decide if they should shoot at someone and to actually hit the target. Any police officer involved an a shooting will tell you that even with the training they receive, there is still a huge amount of stress, emotion, and adrenalin surge. All of these have an effect on decision making and ACCURACY. Studies show that in police involved shootings, MOST OF THE SHOTS MISS THE TARGETt! Do we really want to put this kind of responsibility on teachers? A class in shooting cannot prepare you for shooting at a person in a highly charged situation. I'm a retired teacher. I own guns. I target shoot. I support gun control!

    December 18, 2012 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  5. rv

    The Goobers from Texas....At it again. Let's turn everyone in the US, Teachers, Preachers, Moms, into trained killers!!! What's wrong with that picture?

    December 18, 2012 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  6. BCW

    Parents start buying bullet proof vests to your school aged children for Christmas.
    They can come with various fasionable designs like Elmo, Dora and SpongeBob.
    An hammet is another good gift idea, in case a shooter aims at their heads.
    How rediculous Perry is? Guns in schools? Teachers carrying guns in classrooms? NO WAY!

    December 18, 2012 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  7. zenfire

    Either protect the teacher or allow them to protect themselves and their classroom!! How do you protect the teacher? Have an armed security gaurd always near the front of the school. Yes, it cost money, but people are dead here! Protect the teacher and the class or allow them to protect themselves.

    December 18, 2012 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  8. Becky

    I don't think anybody thinks that a shoot out at a school or church or any place is what the governor wants... These deranged lunatics pick on the vulnerable if the playing field is leveled, then it acts as a deterrent. Again and again the lunatics are going where they know no one is being truly protected. I am not saying I am infavor of more guns. Because I have actually been on the fence about this subject. I just understand what leveling the playing field means.

    December 18, 2012 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  9. caryl

    After some of the teachers and principals I have known in my education career, NOTHING would scare me more than thinking of some of them armed!

    December 18, 2012 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  10. vet31

    Gov Perry is right on the money. Someone mentioned that "what if the teacher went postal." Having a "gun free zone" won't prevent that. "What if the teacher accidentally hit a kid?" That'd be horrible, and we'd never know the alternative outcome, but I doubt the teacher would accidentally hit 20 kids and 6 teachers. Look, I'm not saying that every principle should be carring an AR15, but at least have good video survelance, a balistic resistant glass at the front door and secure doors throughout, and give SOMEBODY - a principle, teachers, a guard, or even a grounds keeper - a way to protect the kids. Even if it's a gun with rubber bullets.

    December 18, 2012 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  11. Bob

    So he wants to add the armed guard hat to the teaching profession since teacher, parent, and counselor aren't enough. I don't want my kids to be in class when any of those teachers have their "snap day."

    December 18, 2012 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  12. Sly

    I agree with Gov Perry – all school children should be allowed to carry weapons, beginning in kindergarten.

    Our 2nd amendment gives us the right to carry weapons, and given modern times, all Americans, age 10 and up, should be allowed to carry WMD's such as RGP's. In addition, we should be able to arm individual families with small nuclear bombs, in case the Government requires a bit of tyranny.

    Also, we should be able to purchase tanks with bombs, for our personal safety.

    Thank you Governor, and real nice picture too.

    December 18, 2012 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  13. wgf

    If every teacher in the country is armed, how many guns does that put into circulation ? Does Rick Perry really believe that no teacher would ever make a mistake and somehow inadvertantly (or not) allow a student access to his gun ?

    The gun problem is one of math. There are 300,000,000 guns in circulation. Let's say 99.99% of them are managed by careful, caring and diligent people who do not allow other parties access to their weapons. That still leaves 30,000 guns exposed to who knows what on any given day.

    December 18, 2012 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  14. john

    jw33 said it best. His/her schools have police officers in them to " . . . keep the presence of drugs down . . ." Please note, that drugs are illegal yet even with police officers present, they still exist IN THE SCHOOL. Banning guns will do what, exactly?

    December 18, 2012 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  15. kassie

    Time for Texas to secede. It is baffling to me. This complete lack of common sense and compassion.

    December 18, 2012 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  16. Rudy NYC


    I think the concept that many of you are missing is that people go into schools and malls and theatres and commit these mass murders because they know that the law Abiding citizens are not carrying and are defenseless. You don't hear about people committing these mass murders in police stations do you?
    Wrong. Guns give the cowards courage.
    Wrong. If he feared being shot at, then why wear a vest.
    Wrong. Hire professionals to protect your kids, instead of leaving it in the hands of amateurs.

    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. If we had laws that were more stringent and punative regarding the responsibilities licensed gun owners should have to keep their weapons out of the hands of unlicensed users, then it is possible that this tragedy could have been avoided.

    However, it is perfectly legal for the mother to take her unlicensed son to a shooting range, and train him on how to use her weapons. It is perfectly legal for the mother to let her son have access to her weapons. It is not the mother's responsibility for the crimes her son might commit through her consent for him to gain access to those weapons.

    Gun owners are not held accountable to anything except their own egos.

    December 18, 2012 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  17. john

    Let's ban guns! We'll start with the body guards of every legislator and politician that votes FOR any gun bans. I mean, if the law is good enough for the citizens to follow . . . ????

    December 18, 2012 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  18. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    This guy, Perry, is on powerful meds for back pain and he's carrying a gun, Oh my God.

    December 18, 2012 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  19. hsteacher

    In Utah teachers with concealed weapons permits have been able to carry weapons for over 10 years and many do...

    December 18, 2012 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  20. Texas Anne

    "you should be able to carry your handgun anywhere in this state," said Perry"
    Mr. Perry– would that include allowing concealed weapons to be brought into YOUR office? Would you be comfortable with every dingwit in the state bringing their Glock into the office where you sit?
    Just an fyi– I know a bunch of people in our town who do have concealed permits, and I've got to tell you, it scares the whiz out of me to know some of them have a gun. I don't care how much "training" they've had, I know they are basically 3 crayons short of a box, and shouldn't ever be allowed to carry a gun anywhere.

    December 18, 2012 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  21. Grady

    if texas had it's way you could buy guns from a vending know the one down the hall next to the soda and candy machine...

    December 18, 2012 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  22. Sniffit

    "I think the concept that many of you are missing is that people go into schools and malls and theatres and commit these mass murders because they know that the law Abiding citizens are not carrying and are defenseless."

    No, they choose those sites for maximum horror, mayhem and publicity. It has NOTHING to do with them calculating that nobody will be carrying a concealed weapon, so nobody will shoot back. Do you have any idea jsut how stupid that claim sounds in light of the facts that (a) these nutjobs go in wearing flak jackets, tactical helmets and other equipment indicating that they expect to be shot at and (b) that they are almost universally suicidal and do not intend to make it out alive, be it from their own gun or someone else's?

    December 18, 2012 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  23. Sue

    Every teacher that wants to should be allowed to have a lock drawer in his/ her classroom for a gun. They should be allowed to be trained at tax payer expense and to practice at gun ranges at tax payer expense. No one teacher should be forced to participate but the ones that want should be allowed the ability to defend themselves and their students from these random mentally ill individuals. The reason these people choose schools is because they believe no one else will have a gun. When this is no longer the case it is less likely the school will be such a lucrative mass shooting setting for these unstable people that want to get their 15 minutes of fame. Another alternative is to allow parents the budget that the school gets to home school the children. Also, maybe it is time to rethink what is in the best interest of all the kids. Should all kids be put at risk in interest of mainstreaming a few children with mental disabilities.

    December 18, 2012 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  24. greg

    In a country of armed teachers, we will end up with a lot more dead children and teachers. How are these weapons secured at school? In purses? In lockers? In desks? No matter where the guns are, you are exposing everyone to risk given the difficulty of keeping hundreds of thousands of fireamrs secured at all times in an environment full of children that can be quite volitile. If the teachers secure their weapons in an armory (central location) that can be kept secured, there isn't much point. And teachers (I hope) are not going to be taking semi-automatic assault weapons to class. The fact is, banning these type of weapons does not stop people from carrying concealed weapons, guns to protect themselves. Not only should it be illegal to buy these type of guns–it should be illegal to possess them.

    December 18, 2012 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  25. Grady

    as can always count on Govenor "OOOPs " Perry and other texas politicians for comic relief...

    December 18, 2012 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
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