Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'
December 18th, 2012
10:55 AM ET
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Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'

(CNN) – Amid calls for tighter restrictions on guns following last week's deadly rampage in Connecticut, Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry said at a tea party event Monday that anyone with a concealed handgun license in the Lone Star State should be able to take guns on public property – including schools.

"In the state of Texas, with our concealed handgun license, if you have been duly backgrounded and trained and you are a concealed handgun license carrying individual, you should be able to carry your handgun anywhere in this state," said Perry, who later added a person has the right to prohibit guns on their private property.

Provided they have the proper training and license, teachers should have "access to weapons in their school," Perry said. Individual school districts should be able to determine whether or not to allow firearms on their campuses, he said.

At least one school jurisdiction in Texas already allows teachers to carry guns – the Harrold school district, located 175 miles northwest of Dallas, began allowing its employees to carry guns in 2008, as long as they obtained the necessary license.

On Friday, the district's superintendent David Thweatt said the set-up meant his schools were doing everything they could to protect students.

"Is that 100%? No," Thweatt told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "Nothing is 100%. But what we do know is that we've done all we can to protect our children."

The shooting Friday in Connecticut has sparked promises from several federal lawmakers to reintroduce tighter gun control measures, ranging from a reinstatement of a federal ban on assault weapons to banning the sale of high-capacity magazines.

Perry stipulated that lawmakers have a responsibility to "do everything we can to make sure that those types of evils are restricted the best that it can be," but that citizens should be wary of reactive decisions from the federal government.

"One of the things I hope we don't see from our federal government is this knee-jerk reaction from Washington, D.C., when there is an event that occurs that they come in and think they know the answer," Perry said.

On the day of the massacre, Perry requested his state's education commissioner review emergency operation plans in schools, saying it was "essential that we ensure all Texas schools are equipped and ready to carry out a strategic plan to secure the safety of students and staff in the event of a threat such as the one that occurred today."

At the event Monday, Perry also dropped a hint about his political future, including a potential sequel to his failed bid for the 2012 presidential nomination.

The Texas governor said his 2012 run, which ended January, was an "extraordinary experience," and that despite his loss, "I would do it again."

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soundoff (761 Responses)
  1. mike

    I'll keep my guns try and come and take them.

    December 19, 2012 02:35 am at 2:35 am |
  2. Justin T.

    To anyone thinking this is a bad idea you're insane. You people all must be skipping past the fact that these individuals that go on these shooting rampages, aren't normal people at all. They are psychotic and obviously damaged people who have major issues. There are hundreds of thousands of guns owned legally by civilians all over America and for the most part none of those owners do things like this. Most gun crimes are caused by individuals who have the guns illegally and drug and gang members. Had a sane and brave person been in that school the gunman could have been disabled or killed before so many lives were lost. All of those children and teachers were completely defenseless against a gun and you're saying it would be bad for them to be able to have a defense against lunatics like this person was? Shame on you.

    December 19, 2012 02:35 am at 2:35 am |
  3. anonymous

    I disagree with you Gov Perry. Let us a say person, who has been duly back grounded and trained and given license buys a handgun in 2012. Ten years down the line in 2022 he becomes mentally ill due to various reasons. God forbid, how do we detect and stop him if he decides to use that in a school.
    Remember the case of New york Nanny who stabbed two children whom she cared for many years when she snapped mentally.
    What if a teacher becomes mentally ill.
    I am open to debate for carrying guns at other places but Schools should be a No Weapons/GUNS zone.

    December 19, 2012 02:49 am at 2:49 am |
  4. Marlene

    So now what Perry and all the other "arm the teacher nuts" , after grading papers and planning the next day's lesson teachers have to attend commando training every afternoon at 4? And what happens if a teacher fails to stop a kevlar wearing maniac with an assault rifle? Should the kids all gather round and pelt him with their notebooks and pencils? What if the teacher accidentally kills a kid instead? What if the gun ends up getting stolen from the school somehow? Then there will be another gun in the wrong hands. Perry and the rest of these idiots need to sit down and shut up because they aren't offering any helpful suggestions.

    December 19, 2012 03:00 am at 3:00 am |
  5. CueBallSTL

    I'm used to seeing a lot of liberal ignorance on this web site, but there's way more than usual on this article. You take a sound bite, like "Teachers should be armed!!!", and make it sound like it means teachers should hold a loaded gun in their hands with the safety off at all times. Try this for a scenario: Every classroom has a gun safe built into the wall and controlled by the teacher's fingerprint. They're not that expensive – Look them up. Make sure there's a gun in each of them, and the teachers are trained on their usage. I would suggest wiring them to an alarm system that goes off any time one of the safes is opened, just like a fire alarm. Also, train the teachers on recognizing and dealing with invasive situations as happened in Newtown. You could equip many classrooms for less than $5,000 total, which is a small investment considering the lives that are at stake. And if a teacher doesn't want to participate, then let them opt out, and hope they're not the sheep that gets attacked first.

    December 19, 2012 03:05 am at 3:05 am |
  6. Ryan

    These predators deliberately pick vulnerable locations to strike. That is why they attack schools and theatres instead of police stations. Yesterday in San Antonio and off duty cop shot and killed a man who opened fire in a crowded theatre. In Oregon the gunfire immediately stopped when a citizen produced their concealed firearm. In neither of these events were any innocents hurt in "the crossfire". Lives were saved because a gun was in the right hands. Perhaps if the unarmed teacher, who resorted to trying to disarm the shooter at Sandy Hook, had a concealed gun we wouldn't need to bury 20 children this week. Firearms in the right hands save lives, after all we don't call 911 to request unarmed police officers in situations like these.

    December 19, 2012 03:12 am at 3:12 am |
  7. Real World

    How different would the news this last weekend have been if the principal and psychologist had something more than their bodies to use to try to stop Adam Lanza? This is real life, not some mind numbing sit com. If you do a google search, there are other interviews with the principal at the school in Texas where he explains that the school district requires teachers who want to be "guardians" (concealed carriers) have to apply to him and the school board, go through additional training, be approved by him and the school board and keep their weapon locked, and loaded with ammunition made specially to be used in highly populated areas (prevents ricochets and breaks apart on impact). Contrary to the foolish posts here, concealed carry permits aren't issued just because someone signs up and shows up for classes. They are specifically taught about if, how, when to use their weapon in just such circumstances, close quarters and highly populated, chaotic circumstances. Yeah, it would be tragic if a teacher hurt or killed an innocent bystander trying to stop a bad guy who is shooting up the place, but not nearly as tragic as what would happen if no one tried to stop him.

    December 19, 2012 03:20 am at 3:20 am |
  8. Kevin

    A gun sitting on a table is just a hunk of metal, nothing else.

    December 19, 2012 03:30 am at 3:30 am |
  9. Getoverit

    @george wheeldon

    How can ANYONE be this stupid???? Maybe he is the one who can remember the 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 government departments he would get rid of. And this was a Republican candidate for President?
    It's not about that, zippy!!!

    December 19, 2012 03:41 am at 3:41 am |
  10. Arkansas

    So Rick Perry s idea is to place thousands of guns in thousands of classrooms all over the country. So what will the solution be if a troubled student in the classroom somehow gets access to the gun and shoots the Teacher and students in the class?

    December 19, 2012 04:09 am at 4:09 am |
  11. Ben

    To all those saying that educated and trained gun owners in a classroom would end up hitting innocents in a crossfire, I ask you one question: When has this ever happened? Answer? Never. On the other hand, I could post dozens of actual videos right now, of concealed carriers shooting down criminal killers and NOT hitting any civilians. You are perpetrating a complete myth. The truth is with even minimal training hitting a man sized target at 15 feet is a cake walk. The people saying "but kids will be shot by the teachers!" must have literally no gun training.

    December 19, 2012 04:47 am at 4:47 am |
  12. Jeff

    Instead of raising your had, you could just shoot at the teacher to get her attention.

    December 19, 2012 04:58 am at 4:58 am |
  13. homebuoy

    "anywhere", I'm assuming, would include the governor's office? I'm sure that Mr. Perry wouldn't have the guts to allow his visitors to have concealed weapons, or any weapons at all , in his office. Supreme court ruled that bringing them to the National parks okay.... but not their workplace.

    December 19, 2012 05:49 am at 5:49 am |
  14. ATL_Guy67

    Gun proponents, lets see what happens when you lose a loved one in the next mass shooting. You need to find other ways to fulfill your lives.

    December 19, 2012 05:56 am at 5:56 am |
  15. Tony in Maine

    I have no objection to the 2nd Amendment types stroking their guns in the privacy of their own bedrooms – even comparing guns with likeminded folks to see whose gun is more powerful – but doing this sort of thing in public places is just wrong.

    December 19, 2012 06:08 am at 6:08 am |
  16. Scott

    The Crazy get crazier. This isn't quite as bad as Senator Shortey who wants to arm teachers. If you want an armed presence in schools it needs to be police professionals not every amateur yahoo with a teaching certificate and a license to carry a gun. Oh my lord make the sale and ownership of automatic and semi-automatic rifles and machine guns illegal. Or ship everyone with such a weapon off to a war zone where they belong. They can decide when they want to come back by giving up their automatic weapon and just getting by with a single shot rifle, shot gun or hand gun. Maybe a bayonet.

    December 19, 2012 06:20 am at 6:20 am |
  17. JOHN

    Once again, our Gov. Rick Perry embarrasses us in front of the nation by saying such an ignorant thing, making Texas the laughing stock of the nation. Catering to Tea Party nuts and American Taliban, he says what he thinks they want to hear. More guns in school???? Only in Texas, Only in Texas...

    December 19, 2012 06:27 am at 6:27 am |
  18. dave

    This issue is symptomatic of our culture...gain 40lbs and have heart issues, rather than exercise and watch your diet you get some pills from the dr. We need to take responsibility for this and attack it at its core. Arming everyone just creates more problems and doesn't help fix the underlying problem. The right to bear arms has been twisted by politicking and gerrymandering the courts – elected officials are afraid of the NRA b/c they are organized and have money. It's time the American people get organized. This doesn't mean people can't have guns. We shouldn't have automatic or semi-automatic weapons, and we should have limited clip sizes. These deaths just don't happen in other countries that allow guns – our neighbor to the north is a prime example of a country where there are millions of guns but very few fatalities. The military industrial complex is a self-fulfilling prophesy – there are contractors and lobbyists who want to sell the government everything, and the NRA is no different – I'll admit I haven't checked their financial records (not even sure if they are transparent on this) but I am expecting that all major gun companies give money to the NRA so it can appear to be a "rights" organization and not an industry lobby. Let's be sensible and start talking about reasonable solutions.

    December 19, 2012 06:37 am at 6:37 am |
  19. Marcia

    Guns being brought into the school by any means is a lousy idea. Kids steal. DO you really want to be the teacher responsible for a shooting at your school because some kid got ahold of your gun? If you argue that it will be kept under lock and key, then what good is it going to do when you can't get to it in an emergency? I'm a middle school teacher and it scares the crap out of me that gun rights extremists are advocating a return the the wild west days when everyone was packing. Ugh.

    December 19, 2012 06:58 am at 6:58 am |
  20. Cheerios

    Liberals.....never letting a tragedy to go to waste. To all those who wish to abolish the 2nd Ad – there is a utopic paradise which does exist and has no guns, zero crime (at least none that we know of), and best of all – no conservatives: It's called North Korea.

    December 19, 2012 07:01 am at 7:01 am |
  21. Namemr

    They need to get rid of guns that hold more than 6 rounds of ammunition. If you need more than 6 shots to defend yourself then your aim stinks and your more of a problem having a high volume weapon. Americans should always have the RIGHT to choose to own or not to own a gun. Lets make sure its not something that has over 6 rounds before a re-load is necessary. These yahoos with 100 round weapons is scary stuff. As for the rest of us, get a bow and get good with it and you can silently take out any threat within reason.

    December 19, 2012 07:05 am at 7:05 am |
  22. clarke

    No one is taking the guns away, A few gun controls aren't going to hurt anyone, they may help. We have many responsible gun owners . We also have many that are not responsible and use guns for all the wrong reasons, this is where the controls are needed.

    December 19, 2012 07:06 am at 7:06 am |
  23. Marry

    People like Perry (and there are a lot of them) simple leaves one speechless! What a sick state of mind all these simple minded, aggressive, respect less people represent. You see where this "gun-cult" has already gotten us? Vigilante – frontier law! And that in a country that thinks of itself as "exceptional"? ...yes, exceptional brutal, senseless and stupid!

    December 19, 2012 07:26 am at 7:26 am |
  24. David

    Jerry to George Costanza: "if every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right”.

    I wish somebody would give Rick Perry the same advice.

    December 19, 2012 07:28 am at 7:28 am |
  25. Mark

    I'd like to hear the perspective of Texas teachers on this one.

    December 19, 2012 07:29 am at 7:29 am |
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