Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'
December 18th, 2012
10:55 AM ET
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Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'

(CNN) – Amid calls for tighter restrictions on guns following last week's deadly rampage in Connecticut, Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry said at a tea party event Monday that anyone with a concealed handgun license in the Lone Star State should be able to take guns on public property – including schools.

"In the state of Texas, with our concealed handgun license, if you have been duly backgrounded and trained and you are a concealed handgun license carrying individual, you should be able to carry your handgun anywhere in this state," said Perry, who later added a person has the right to prohibit guns on their private property.

Provided they have the proper training and license, teachers should have "access to weapons in their school," Perry said. Individual school districts should be able to determine whether or not to allow firearms on their campuses, he said.

At least one school jurisdiction in Texas already allows teachers to carry guns – the Harrold school district, located 175 miles northwest of Dallas, began allowing its employees to carry guns in 2008, as long as they obtained the necessary license.

On Friday, the district's superintendent David Thweatt said the set-up meant his schools were doing everything they could to protect students.

"Is that 100%? No," Thweatt told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "Nothing is 100%. But what we do know is that we've done all we can to protect our children."

The shooting Friday in Connecticut has sparked promises from several federal lawmakers to reintroduce tighter gun control measures, ranging from a reinstatement of a federal ban on assault weapons to banning the sale of high-capacity magazines.

Perry stipulated that lawmakers have a responsibility to "do everything we can to make sure that those types of evils are restricted the best that it can be," but that citizens should be wary of reactive decisions from the federal government.

"One of the things I hope we don't see from our federal government is this knee-jerk reaction from Washington, D.C., when there is an event that occurs that they come in and think they know the answer," Perry said.

On the day of the massacre, Perry requested his state's education commissioner review emergency operation plans in schools, saying it was "essential that we ensure all Texas schools are equipped and ready to carry out a strategic plan to secure the safety of students and staff in the event of a threat such as the one that occurred today."

At the event Monday, Perry also dropped a hint about his political future, including a potential sequel to his failed bid for the 2012 presidential nomination.

The Texas governor said his 2012 run, which ended January, was an "extraordinary experience," and that despite his loss, "I would do it again."

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  1. Chris

    I am a middle school math teacher in Texas. Some colleagues of mine and I were discussing this idea of guns being allowed in schools. The day guns are allowed in schools is the day I resign, and there were four other teachers with me on this. You allow guns in schools, and you are going to have a teacher shortage for a time. Of course, gun-toting teachers from other states will rush in and fill those positions. And then the state falls to 50th in education because the students are being taught by utter fools.

    December 19, 2012 08:29 am at 8:29 am |
  2. Wake up People!

    @Jon. Actually the laws are pretty lax here in Detroit. Anyone can get a gun and many actually carry them everywhere. Legally. I know you conservatives think you know everything about everyone but you don't. A few months back a cab driver was getting robbed and he pulled his gun, they had a shootout and the cabbie died. His gun didn't help him one bit.

    December 19, 2012 08:30 am at 8:30 am |
  3. Boo

    This guy is dumber than a spatula. Are they all that stupid in Texas?

    December 19, 2012 08:32 am at 8:32 am |
  4. thinkmore

    Wrong way to go. Like putting fuel on a fire.

    December 19, 2012 08:32 am at 8:32 am |
  5. Hilikus

    I had a teacher in high school have a Vietnam flashback during class. I am glad he wasn't armed...

    Everyone snaps, including teachers...arming the people who have to babysit a hundred kids a day for pay far less than a babysitter makes just doesn't strike me as a good idea.

    December 19, 2012 08:32 am at 8:32 am |
  6. Rob1961

    This is the same man who disputes global warming. I taught in a urban school where hidden knives were a serious threat. I can't imagine the carnage that might have taken place if these same students were armed. Just what we need–a shoot out in a public school between people protecting themselves from real or imagined threats from another student who has a concealed gun. Please keep these ideas and this governor in Texas. We'll mourn your children when this idea blows up in your faces.

    December 19, 2012 08:33 am at 8:33 am |
  7. Slowgun

    "One of the things I hope we don't see from our federal government is this knee-jerk reaction from Washington, D.C., when there is an event that occurs that they come in and think they know the answer," Perry said.

    This isn't an "event" is becoming a regular thing in our country.
    To drive a car, you need a license, the car has to be registered, and in most states insured.
    To get a gun, you go to a gun show and buy one.

    December 19, 2012 08:34 am at 8:34 am |
  8. Anonymous

    is that the best you can come up with,im thinking more along lines of keeping guns out of the out of the hands of the mentally ill.

    December 19, 2012 08:36 am at 8:36 am |
  9. Slowgun

    "Criminals are deterred by the risk of attacking an armed victim. As more citizens arm themselves, the danger to criminals increases"

    yup...we hear this all the time. That guns are used for protect.
    So where are the stories about how someone protected themselfs because they had a gun. Or that a crime was stopped because someone had a don't hear these stories, because they don't happen...its a myth.

    December 19, 2012 08:37 am at 8:37 am |
  10. Stampy

    Just stay in Texas. You are so out of touch with reality.

    December 19, 2012 08:45 am at 8:45 am |
  11. John Ray

    And what is Mr. Perry going to say the first time a student finds said gun or gets hold of it and shoots him/herself (or others)? What is Mr. Perry going to say when the next person who snaps has a damn license? Accidents and crimes of passion which involve shooting can't happen if the gun isn't there. Is Mr. Perry suggesting that someone with a pistol would have been able to stop the crazy boy with the assault rifle? What kind of shoot out would have gone down amid a school full of children? Given that civilians aren't required to have training to keep them from shooting innocent bystanders, it would be an odd thing indeed. Perhaps we should arm the minors too?

    December 19, 2012 08:48 am at 8:48 am |
  12. v_mag

    Leave it to our maniacal governor to say wildly inappropriate and appalling things in the wake of Newtown. Rick, you just upped the ante on Neanderthal.

    December 19, 2012 08:50 am at 8:50 am |
  13. DL

    If you're ok w/guns in schools, you'll be ok w/me bringing one into the capital building where you work... or maybe to a rally where you're speaking... what a jack clown

    December 19, 2012 08:51 am at 8:51 am |
  14. yem

    Governor Perry, you will never win elections with these ideas about guns. I can't read and see on TV the eyes of those scared kids and think about guns the way you think. Don't you people have hearts? There isn't a day that goes by I don't cry for those innocent lives. We betrayed them.We didn't protect them.Enough is enough. Get rid of all those high powered assault machines. Now you have to choose between your child and your gun. Let us which one you will choose.

    December 19, 2012 08:51 am at 8:51 am |
  15. doc58

    Hey ed1. Do you know how many of those children in Ch
    ina died? 0

    December 19, 2012 08:56 am at 8:56 am |
  16. n, tx

    Being a governor of Texas I feel ashamed to say he is the governor of the state I live in, I have no clue how people voted for this man, instead of Senator Hutchinson, She would have been a better governor then Perry will ever be.

    December 19, 2012 08:58 am at 8:58 am |
  17. Mike

    Criminals are like water, they will always chose the path of least resistance; school "A" is a gun free zone, school "B" has no such zone, and school "C" openly permits concealed weapons. To which school is the criminal shooter going?

    December 19, 2012 09:01 am at 9:01 am |
  18. Cynthia Marion

    Rick Perry is a hypocrite. When he led Texas citizens in prayer for rain to relieve our long-running drought at Reliant Stadium in the summer of 2011 concealed weapons (guns) were not allowed. He and his handlers might respond that the "no concealed weapons" wasn't his rule but that of the stadium owners, but if he is such a defender of the right to carry concealed weapons why didn't he choose another location? Was he concerned for his safety?? I say yes.

    December 19, 2012 09:03 am at 9:03 am |
  19. v_mag

    Many of us down here in Texas (especially in the Austin area) have long been totally embarrassed by our elected officials. Perry may be at the top of the dung heap, but others are even more appalling, if that is possible. Rep.Louie Gohmert, who regularly makes a complete fool of himself, has made recent statements that confirm his membership in the looney bin wing of the TeaPublican Party. Part of that speech described mass murder by assault weapons and not being a problem and said that gun control would be a band aid for this non-problem.

    Maybe it was because none of the kids who where murdered belonged to him that he thinks it's not a problem. Maybe it's because he is just as looney as Adam Lanza. To paraphrase an old song, "Louie, Louie, oh oh, you gotta go."

    December 19, 2012 09:03 am at 9:03 am |
  20. Master Blaster

    Personally I think arming teachers is a so-so idea. The draw back is if a teacher removes the gun from their person a "bad" student may take it and wreak havoc. Also a "bad" student could steal or take it from the teacher. Some teachers are small (under 130lbs). I think a more practical plan of defence would place ARMED POLICE OFFICERS, so many officers per so many square feet of school. That's why we pay police, to PROTECT us, not cut & run for constitution and freedom killing legislation.

    December 19, 2012 09:04 am at 9:04 am |
  21. SafeJourney

    Put Trained armed security gurards in the schools. Arming teachers is not the answer

    December 19, 2012 09:04 am at 9:04 am |
  22. Anonymous

    "Did you hear that, stupid liberals?"

    We don't know what political affiliation the six women who were killed were. We will never know what policical party the 20 children who were killed would have supported had they been given the chance to grow up into adulthood. We won't know what political party the remaining children will grow up to support.

    What we DO know is that every one of those children who attended Sandy Hook Elementary and returned to school this week have more courage in their small little body's than you will ever have in your lifetime.

    December 19, 2012 09:05 am at 9:05 am |
  23. way out there

    Buy a gun to celebrate the birth of the Prince of Peace.

    December 19, 2012 09:14 am at 9:14 am |
  24. Matt

    I am not a republican but that is something I agree with. No matter what we do the only thing that could've saved those kids lives is if someone in the school had firearms and was properly trained to use them. Even if guns were illegal a psychopath can still figure out a way to kill (look at Norway where guns are strictly regulated yet that didn't stop Breivik), and it takes time for police to show up so in those kind of situations only armed and trained citizen on the stop can help. I am not saying it will prevent all tragedies, nothing is 100% guaranteed in this life but we can lower the risks.

    If someone says "what if a teacher with a gun goes crazy and start shooting at people", well that's pretty much what happened, someone got crazy and shot nearly 30 people in the school, the law banning guns in public schools didn't stop him.

    December 19, 2012 09:15 am at 9:15 am |
  25. downinit

    Some nuts are saying that if it is okay to allow pilots to arm themselves then we should also allow teachers to arm themselves, however, there are very good reasons why comparing the arming of airline pilots to the arming of school teachers is a completely invalid comparison....
    * Airline passengers already have their lives in the hands of the pilot flying the plane, if a pilot has a mental breakdown he does not need a gun to kill everyone on the plane and there is always a co-pilot to help a stressed pilot.
    * An airliner is a highly federally regulated environment, It is not a federal offense with possible jail time for a student to disrupt a classroom. One unruly student will most likely be joined by other students in the disruption, while on a flight anyone trying to start a disruption will be restrained by the flight crew with the eager help of passengers.
    * There are federal regulations that are designed to prevent pilots from becoming too stressed, they are even allowed to sleep on the job and have a co-pilot to take over when needed.
    * Since 9/11 the cockpit crew is always kept locked out of touch from the passengers behind a bullet proof door and knows that even in the worst case other crew and most passengers will be eager to come to their immediate aid.
    * Many flights already have an armed air marshall to prevent major disruptions from passengers.

    December 19, 2012 09:15 am at 9:15 am |
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