Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'
December 18th, 2012
10:55 AM ET
10 years ago

Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'

(CNN) – Amid calls for tighter restrictions on guns following last week's deadly rampage in Connecticut, Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry said at a tea party event Monday that anyone with a concealed handgun license in the Lone Star State should be able to take guns on public property – including schools.

"In the state of Texas, with our concealed handgun license, if you have been duly backgrounded and trained and you are a concealed handgun license carrying individual, you should be able to carry your handgun anywhere in this state," said Perry, who later added a person has the right to prohibit guns on their private property.

Provided they have the proper training and license, teachers should have "access to weapons in their school," Perry said. Individual school districts should be able to determine whether or not to allow firearms on their campuses, he said.

At least one school jurisdiction in Texas already allows teachers to carry guns – the Harrold school district, located 175 miles northwest of Dallas, began allowing its employees to carry guns in 2008, as long as they obtained the necessary license.

On Friday, the district's superintendent David Thweatt said the set-up meant his schools were doing everything they could to protect students.

"Is that 100%? No," Thweatt told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "Nothing is 100%. But what we do know is that we've done all we can to protect our children."

The shooting Friday in Connecticut has sparked promises from several federal lawmakers to reintroduce tighter gun control measures, ranging from a reinstatement of a federal ban on assault weapons to banning the sale of high-capacity magazines.

Perry stipulated that lawmakers have a responsibility to "do everything we can to make sure that those types of evils are restricted the best that it can be," but that citizens should be wary of reactive decisions from the federal government.

"One of the things I hope we don't see from our federal government is this knee-jerk reaction from Washington, D.C., when there is an event that occurs that they come in and think they know the answer," Perry said.

On the day of the massacre, Perry requested his state's education commissioner review emergency operation plans in schools, saying it was "essential that we ensure all Texas schools are equipped and ready to carry out a strategic plan to secure the safety of students and staff in the event of a threat such as the one that occurred today."

At the event Monday, Perry also dropped a hint about his political future, including a potential sequel to his failed bid for the 2012 presidential nomination.

The Texas governor said his 2012 run, which ended January, was an "extraordinary experience," and that despite his loss, "I would do it again."

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  1. Rob

    Yeah, I don't see this policy having any downside. That's sarcasm, by the way.

    December 18, 2012 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  2. Jeremy

    The plethora of spelling errors from those criticizing Perry for this shows just how "stupid" they are 😉

    "I mentioned the above points to demonstarate how stupid that suggestion is"

    "I good place to start is banning semi-auto weapons people dont need clips that hold 90 bullets cause if you cant hit your target with in a few shots then you shouldnt own a gun, no online bullets sales, and background checks required for every purchase."

    "Perry's Neatherthal cave man mentality on guns was fine for Texas"

    I'm just saying...

    December 18, 2012 11:46 am at 11:46 am |
  3. Tony

    In order to obtain a CHL in the state of Texas, you must go through a 10 hour course on the law concerning when and where you are allowed to carry and use your weapon. It also stresses that the weapon should only be used in the most dire circumstances. You must also qualify on your weapon, proving that you can safely handle it and that you can hit what you are aiming at. The background check is done by the state first then sent off to the FBI for more investigation. The typical time it takes for these background checks to go through and for you to be legally allowed to carry concealed is 2-3 months. And I will also point out that these mass murders happen in so called "gun Free" zones. Schools are gun free zones, the Aurora movie theater was a gun free zone...

    December 18, 2012 11:46 am at 11:46 am |
  4. PK

    The country is already down on teachres and cutting pay like crazy so now you want them to be the police in schools. Nobody wants to think that if teachers carry more kids will say they have the right to carry a gun to school? This is the logic of high school kids today. After this weekend I can't believe any educated adult would think more guns are the answer.

    December 18, 2012 11:46 am at 11:46 am |
  5. HowdyDoody

    Wow, America really is dead. Look at the amount of posts here were people would rather just roll over and let their kids die because they don't understand the facts that guns don't kill people, people kill people.
    Israel and Thailand allow teachers to carry in classes.
    As a parent, I would feel better knowing that my child at least has a chance because her teacher has the ability to defend her class.
    It's not the wild west, it's the 21st century where progressive parents and educators have promoted a sense of apathy in children. The entertainment industry has created a platform to tell people that killing is just another day thing. We see it in TV, and movies all the time. The "good guy" can kill a dozen people and it never phases him. We have video games where you can run around shooting whoever you want. We have kids/ young adults that were brought up on this fantasy violence and due to poor parenting, some of them cannot distiguish between fantasy and reality.
    The same day as the shooting someone ran into a school in China and knifed 20 kids. If you take away one tool, people heck bent on murder and mayham will just find a different tool do do it with. Also, don't forget, the deadliest school attach was done by a school official with a bomb in the 1920's. 45 people were killed, but bombs were illegal then too.

    December 18, 2012 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
  6. Dennis

    Monk – How about we get rid of Obmacare to pay for the addtional police officers on school campuses. Something the article doesne

    December 18, 2012 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
  7. Lamar in Dallas, TX

    I'm a proud Texan and this doofus of a governor does NOT represent me! No we do not need more guns in school! Oh and as far as you running for president again, go right ahead....America could use the laughter!

    December 18, 2012 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
  8. ST

    Is anyone surprised what Perry is talking now??? The man who ashamed himself infront of millions watching debate with his Oops!, Oops! Oops talk! To start with Perry, why not issue gun to everyone in your household? It is all about defense.

    December 18, 2012 11:48 am at 11:48 am |
  9. Reality101

    @ Rudy NYC

    "Actually, violent crime goes way down when cowards do not have a firearm to hide behind. Look at the statistics in New York City, Chicago, and other major cities and prove it to yourself."

    Are you really that stupid? I don't know how things are in NYC but things in Chicago are terrible. Perhaps you may have missed the news this year set a new record for shootings and for murders. Gun Control has FAILED miserably in Chicago.

    December 18, 2012 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  10. babysgramma

    Maine Liberal,
    surely you are not saying that "only" 20 babies killed out of 98,000 schools is okay??

    1 is too many.

    December 18, 2012 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  11. bluegillonthefly

    Finally, an intelligent statement on this issue!

    How different things might have been if any of the Sandy Hook staff had been armed. My daughters' own school is practically undefendable – multiple entry points, at least one of which allows a person to not only not go past the office, but allows a person to enter the campus unobserved by the office. Our small, church-affiliated school couldn't afford armed security even if we decided we wanted it, so the only chance we would have if a shooter entered our campus would be armed staff. It's only a 2-minute drive from a major police station, but in a shooting situation, you don't have 2 minutes.

    December 18, 2012 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  12. Deb in MT

    No. Just, no, Governor Perry. If I wanted to live in a war zone, I'd move to one.

    On a side note, that wild-eyed picture of the Texas Governor certainly doesn't bolster his 'argument', IMO.

    "FYI, areas which have higher rates of people carrying legal have lower rates of crime." That's absolutely untrue, but the meme just keeps going on, doesn't it?

    "Connecticut has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation and it did nothing..." And we also have laws against murder, rape, theft etc, yet they continue to take place. I know, let's just scrap ALL laws against crime, and crimes will stop, right? Give me a break...

    I'm getting tired of the bleating about the 2nd Amendment, too. We also have a 1st Amendment, and the Supreme Court put limitations on free speech if it is inciteful and poses a danger to the public (yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater, for ex.). It's way past time to seriously look at the public danger posed by an unrestricted interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.

    December 18, 2012 11:53 am at 11:53 am |
  13. Bic Spinach

    I honestly don't think we should take a Texan's advice on anything related to education. Do people forget the "conservatization" effort to change the nation's textbooks a few years ago? These people cannot be trusted when it comes to teaching science, history, sex ed, etc. I doubt we need to follow their example on allowing guns on school grounds.

    Allowing guns into the classroom invites tragedy and accidental death.

    December 18, 2012 11:53 am at 11:53 am |
  14. Doug

    Standard logic has always suggested that we gather more wisdom as we get older. Rick Perry is clearly the exception to the rule!

    December 18, 2012 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
  15. GuestAlso

    The non-stop liberal drivel is humorous if nothing else. On point though, we dont need armed teachers, that isnt any more of a solution than knee jerk gun laws will be. A greater security presence at schools is certainly an option. Maybe if we stop wasting tax dollars on the illegal and the lazy we would have such monies available for the contributing and legal citizens of our nation.

    December 18, 2012 11:55 am at 11:55 am |
  16. Sniffit

    "have we forgetten about 9/11?"

    I'm sorry, but did you just advocate guns on planes? You win today's gold star for mindlessness. Hands down. I see no way anyone could possibly say something dumber....but take heart, it's only noon, and we still haven't heard Jabberwocky Barbie weigh in on this issue.

    December 18, 2012 11:55 am at 11:55 am |
  17. JustSaying

    I wonder if Perry and those who agree with him would have the same opinion it they really thought about the crime scene in this latest tragedy.

    December 18, 2012 11:55 am at 11:55 am |
  18. tommyrock80

    That's curious. Republicans don't trust teachers to teach effectively, but they trust them with firearms.

    December 18, 2012 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  19. Samndave

    I was a teacher and principal for 35 years and I believe two things have to happen and quickly: 1) ban assault weapons and tighter gun controls , 2) armed security in every school ,the number of security depending on the size of the school and number of students......I totally agree with a previous post about stopping aid to some countries that don't deserve it and use that money for the security of our the way I am also a hunter and have licensed guns,but I sure don't need an assault weapon to hunt deer, elk and fowl.Thankyou.

    December 18, 2012 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  20. seanjkil

    So the militarization of our schools is the answer? Tell me Perry, what is the greater likehood, being in a shootout with bad guys or having an accident with a gun?

    December 18, 2012 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  21. HowdyDoody

    juan – Don't confuse them with facts.
    To those thinking gun control works, look at the places with the strictest gun control. They have the highest crime rate. Chicago, NYC, Washington D.C. L.A.
    Regulating guns doesn't work. Infact, it has the opposite effect. It creates people who can't defend themselves against an attacker. Should old Mrs Washington who lives by herself not be allowed to defend her self from the local punks/gangs that want to take her possestions? Should the lady that goes jogging every night not be allowed to prevent her attacker from raping her? Guns are simply an equalizing force. It gives the 100lb soccer mom and fighting chance against a 200lbs plus man that is intent on raping and killing her.

    December 18, 2012 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  22. bill

    I don't know what's worse, that we have a GOP fool as governor in Texas, or that we have enough fools in Texas that voted him as our governor. The republicans sure know how to re-map the voting districts in Texas to disenfranchise a majority of the voters. This must be what Alaska felt like when they had palin as their governor.

    December 18, 2012 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  23. Mary

    Some kids are big enough to physically overpower petite teachers. What happens when a behavior disorder student loses control and decides to try to wrangle a weapon from his teacher? Do you shoot him to save the rest of the class?

    What about a mentally unstable teacher who suddenly loses the patience to deal with a difficult class or coworker?

    As a teacher I cannot even fathom how this would be a good idea. Too many opportunities for "mistakes" (eg, deaths) to happen.

    December 18, 2012 11:56 am at 11:56 am |

    Let's see: An angry student takes the gun from the teacher and shoots his classmates. Sounds safe , doesn't it. What the heck are they thinking.

    December 18, 2012 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  25. Sniffit

    "Monk – How about we get rid of Obmacare to pay for the addtional police officers on school campuses. Something the article doesne"

    Getting rid of something that saves money doesn't "pay for" anything. It costs more. If you'd like to disagree, I suggest you get a team of PhD economists like CBO has and try to come up with a cogent opinion that contradicts theirs.

    December 18, 2012 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
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