CNN's GUT CHECK for December 19, 2012
December 19th, 2012
05:22 PM ET
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CNN's GUT CHECK for December 19, 2012

CNN's GUT CHECK | for December 19, 2012 | 5 p.m.
n. a pause to assess the state, progress or condition of the political news cycle

AGENDA SET: PRESIDENT OBAMA PROMISES GUN LEGISLATION IN WEEKS… The president said the vast majority of gun owners in America handle firearms responsibly, but having more than 10,000 Americans killed every year by guns is "violence we cannot accept as routine." "We won't prevent them all, but that can't be an excuse" not to try, the president added. … MEANWHILE A NEW CNN POLL SHOWS A COUNTRY DIVIDED A bare majority now favors major restrictions on owning guns or an outright ban on gun ownership by ordinary citizens and more than six in 10 favor a ban on semi-automatic assault rifles. … A 53% majority still believes that attacks will continue to happen regardless of any action taken. – Keating Holland

DEVELOPING: FISCAL CLIFF DEBATE STALLS, PRINCIPALS TAKE TO BULLY PULPITS In a candid assessment of the tough fiscal cliff negotiations, President Barack Obama said Wednesday that Republicans are focused too much on besting him personally instead of thinking about what's best for the country. … In response to the president, Speaker of the House John Boehner announced that the House would pass his Plan B proposal on Thursday, a plan the president said “violates the core principles” his recent re-election was all about.

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE JOHN BOEHNER AT A CAPITOL HILL NEWS CONFERENCE: “The president's offer of $1.3 trillion in revenues and $850 billion in spending reductions fails to meet the test that the president promised the American people, a balanced approach. … Tomorrow, the House will pass legislation to make permanent tax relief for nearly every American, 99.81% of the American people. And then the president will have a decision to make. He can call on Senate Democrats to pass that bill or he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in American history.”

DÉJÀ VU: Boehner on December 12 at a news conference after the Republican conference meeting: “His (Obama’s) plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem; it's mainly tax hikes, and his plan does not begin to solve our debt crisis.”

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On this day in history, President Bill Clinton became the second president to be impeached by the House of Representatives. What were the two charges on which he was impeached and what two charges failed?

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What caught our eye today in politics

Today’s presidential press conference held a mirror up to the news cycle and revealed a country torn between a rush to get its fiscal house in order and an America whose heart is still broken over seeing caskets too small to comprehend.

Obama walked swiftly to the White House podium and outlined a strident and detailed push for gun control. He spoke for eight minutes about guns in a way he had not previously addressed in his prior four years as president.

Then, he turned to the reporters, who promptly acted as if the president had not said anything of note and promptly changed the subject.

To be fair, the questions often hold presidents accountable on issues they don’t want to talk about. But, to most observers, it seemed tone deaf as Obama called on a reporter each from the Associated Press, The Wall Street Journal and Politico, and all three ignored the matter on America’s mind and instead each asked questions about the fiscal cliff.

To be fair to the larger White House press corps, the president chooses who gets the opportunity to ask him questions. Nonetheless, the questioning seemed tone deaf.

Observers on Twitter, often an outlet of instant critiquing of news events, chimed in immediately, “In addition to gun control, we need a program whereby broad swaths of Washington press corps are reassigned to Reality, USA,” Clara Jeffrey of Mother Jones tweeted.

David Jackson of the USA Today turned the questions back to guns, but it was ABC’s Jake Tapper whose question caught our attention as it seemed to change the event back to what it was supposed to be – a newsworthy and difficult conversation on guns: “It seems to a lot of observers that you made the political calculation in 2008 in your first term and in 2012 not to talk about gun violence. You had your position on renewing the ban on semiautomatic rifles that then-Sen. Biden put into place, but you didn’t do much about it. This is not the first issue - the first incident of horrific gun violence of your four years. Where have you been?”

The president’s response included, “I think all of us have to do some reflection on how we prioritize what we do here in Washington. And as I said on Sunday, this should be a wake-up call for all of us to say that if we are not getting right the need to keep our children safe, then nothing else matters.”

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Leading CNNPolitics: Obama: Biden to lead effort against gun violence
President Barack Obama said Wednesday that Vice President Joe Biden will lead an administration effort to develop recommendations no later than January for preventing another tragedy like last week's school shooting in Connecticut that left 20 young children and eight adults dead. The vast majority of gun owners in America are responsible, but the more than 10,000 Americans killed every year by guns was "violence we cannot accept as routine."

Leading Drudge: Wal-Mart Sells Out
With President Barack Obama endorsing sweeping gun restrictions in the wake of the school shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, prices for handgun magazines are surging on EBay (EBAY) and semi-automatic rifles are sold out at many Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) locations.

Leading HuffPo: Right-Wing Myths: Busted
An investigation into the State Department's preparations for and management of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, has concluded that "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" within the department played a major role in the devastation that took place there last September. Four Americans were killed in the overnight raid on the compound, including U.S. Ambassador Chistopher Stevens. The ensuing controversy over the incident, and the administration's handling of it, threatened to derail President Barack Obama's reelection campaign through the fall. – Joshua Hersh

Leading Politico: Obama says GOP should 'take the deal'
Amid signs that negotiations are stalled, President Barack Obama said Wednesday that it is “puzzling” that House Speaker John Boehner hasn’t accepted his latest fiscal cliff offer, saying what separates them is a few hundred billion dollars in spending cuts. Obama, speaking in the White House briefing room, said he is “eager to get something done” to avert tax increases and automatic spending cuts before Christmas. – Jake Sherman and Carrie Budoff Brown

Leading The New York Times: Obama to Give Congress Plan on Gun Control Within Weeks
President Obama declared Wednesday that he would make gun control a “central issue” as he opens a second term, submitting broad new gun control proposals to Congress no later than January and committing the power of his office to overcoming political opposition in the wake of last week’s school massacre. – Michael Shear

The political bites of the day

- President presses reality check for Republicans -
OBAMA AT A WHITE HOUSE NEWS CONFERENCE: “At some point, there has got to be, I think, recognition on the part of my Republican friends that - take the deal. They will be able to claim that they have worked with me over the last two years to reduce the deficit more than any other deficit reduction package. … They should be proud of it, but they keep on finding ways to say no as opposed to finding ways to say yes and I don't know how much of that just has to do with it is very hard for them to say yes to me. At some point, they've got to take me out of it and think about their voters and think about what's best for the country and if they do that, if they're not worried about who's winning and who's losing, you know, did they score a point on the president, that they extract that last little concession, that they, you know, forced him to do something he really doesn't want to do, just for the heck of it and they focus on what's actually good for the country, I actually think we can get this done.”

- Days until Christmas clearly on the mind of House leadership -
HOUSE MINORITY LEADER NANCY PELOSI: “We're now less than one week from Christmas, two weeks from the fiscal cliff, there's still time for us to come to agreement, and I hope that time will be well used. In the last 24 hours the question that I get from my caucus and some of you, is what is the speaker trying to prove by going to his, what we call Plan B, 'befuddled'? Is he trying to prove by bringing the two bills to the floor tomorrow that the Republicans are here to protect the wealthiest people in our country at the expense of the middle class? If so, he will do that tomorrow.”

- Tim Scott points to 'moral decay' after school shooting -
REPUBLICAN REP. TIM SCOTT OF SOUTH CAROLINA, THE NEW APPOINTEE TO REPLACE SEN. JIM DEMINT, IN AN INTERVIEW WITH CNN: “I think the solutions are not necessarily in new legislation. Perhaps the solution starts with us examining the mental condition of the person and the persons in the past that have had the desire to create the atrocities that we've seen recently. Mental illness should be a major part of the conversation going forward. We should also look at an opportunity for us to engage this entire culture of moral decay and violence. When we start looking for solutions as the response of a crisis, I think we're starting in the right place. If we draw conclusions quickly, we may draw flawed conclusions.” – Ashley Killough LINK

- What do Lieberman and Mick Jagger have in common? -
MICHAEL CHERTOFF, FORMER HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY, AT A FAREWELL EVENT FOR SEN. JOE LIEBERMAN: “This is not my first farewell for Chairman Lieberman. He's had more farewells than Rolling Stones Farewell Tours.”

What stopped us in 140 characters or less






Gut Check Flashback… In a 2005 interview with CNN’s Frank Cesno, Robert Bork discusses his career:
Frank Sesno: How did that feel, personally, to be the first one out of the cannon?
Robert Bork: Well, I knew what was happening. The core of the issue was, they were afraid I would vote to overrule Roe against Wade. And they were quite right.
Sesno: And your name became a verb.
Bork: My name became a verb. And I regard that as one form of immortality.
Sesno: To Bork means what?
Bork: I think to attack with - to attack a person's reputation and views unfairly.
Sesno: And is it inevitable that future Supreme Court nominees are going to get Borked?
Bork: Oh, yes.
Sesno: Part of the culture wars?
Bork: Yes.





When Bill Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, the House of Representatives did so in two votes. By a 228 to 206 margin, the House impeached Clinton on the grounds of perjury to a grand jury and by a 221 to 212 margin, Clinton was impeached for obstruction of justice.

Two other articles of impeachment failed. By a 205-229 margin, the House failed to pass a Clinton impeachment over perjury in the Paula Jones case, involving an Arkansas state employee who sued Clinton over alleged sexual harassment. And the most lopsided vote occurred when the House accused Clinton of abuse of power – the vote was 148 to 285.

The reason for the last two articles defeat came largely because 28 Republicans voted against the Jones perjury charge and 81 Republicans voted against the abuse of power charge. Only a handful of Democrats - Virgil Goode of Virginia, Ralph Hall of Texas, Paul McHale of Pennsylvania, Charles Stenholm of Texas and Gene Taylor of Mississippi – voted against Clinton in three of the four charges.

The votes made Clinton the second president to be impeached.

After the House passed two of these measures, the proceedings went to the Senate – the first time the Senate had seen a presidential impeachment since President Andrew Johnson in 1868. On February 12, 1999, President Clinton was acquitted of both articles of impeachment – neither vote achieved the necessary 66 votes.

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  1. grimaldi

    Ever had your door broken in and assaulted in your home?
    I'll never be without a handgun again!

    December 19, 2012 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  2. Gurgyl

    These GOP idiots are just playing with American public. Shame. Education we need here. Raise tax on 250k or more, ok.

    December 19, 2012 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  3. Ancient Texan

    Taxing everyone with incomes over $250,000 at 100% will not make one iota of difference, spending is the problem. When you are blowing through $ 11Billion a day in spending, the $85 billion raised per year with the tax increase would make little difference.

    December 19, 2012 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |
  4. Walt

    For all those who still trot out and subscribe to the idea that "guns don't kill people, people do", there are 26 medical examiner reports in Newtown that unequivocally say otherwise. NRA talking points have generally emphasized rhetorical finesse, but such talking points are no longer appropriate. It's time to enter the debate constructively. Guns kill.

    December 19, 2012 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  5. Warren

    The NRA and the horse it rode in on.

    December 19, 2012 06:24 pm at 6:24 pm |
  6. cliff

    Guns do not kill people,people kill people. WITH GUNS When the 2nd amendment was written it took 15 minutes to load a gun and then it might go 50 feet. The 2nd amendment was not wriiten for magazines that hold 30-100 rounds armor piercing bullets assulat rifles. Anyone who thinks that the 2nd amendment was written for the garbage that is on the streets now needs to go back to school and take a history class. Only a fool would think the 2nd amendment was for what is going on now in th US. Keeping a gun in your home is one thing carry using an assult rifle needs to be stopped. NOW

    December 20, 2012 12:06 am at 12:06 am |
  7. J.V.Hodgson

    of $1Boehner comments on latest obama proposal. CNN get the facts right as well as Mr Boehner his tax quote for Obama was $1.2tr Boehner claims 1.3 tr. Obama spending cuts 1.2tr Boehner no no only $850bn and you CNN dont even point out why the difference = interest reduction on the debt. Now they are playing games when tha debt ceiling is is considered interest expense adds to the debt but when you cut debt and" save or reduce interest expense thats not a cut or saving... will you give us all a break and report the facts properly all the time.
    Finally his 99.81 % statement is based on the $1m or above... sort of OK most of us can guess that but it should be tagged with the more importnt figue of revenue over 10 years = somewhere betwen $264bn to 300Bn and he aint even touched spending cuts Budget act $1.2bn.
    His so called plan B is joke.... if he even remotely thinks that puts the balame on Obama and democrats re the fiscal cliff i hope he enjoys having to vote for the defense cuts and will never get tax rates back to bush levels on the rich and it will be $250k and up.
    When will we all get it passing anything on taxes alone does not supercede the budget act, it still goes into effect.
    Time for Obama to say nowm he will veto any attempt to repeal the buget act without $1.2 tr in spending cuts or cost savings. Taxes I have made my last and best offer. Start making things work of the cliff is your responsibilty Republicans. As plan B give me your version of where to make the defense cuts otheriwise I'll decide in a new Mini budget plan on those and other spending cuts and savings ala latest offer from me. A debt ceiling agreement also is needed without I will veto as its not in the countoes interests to have re-play of the last debt showwdown at this time.

    December 20, 2012 12:36 am at 12:36 am |
  8. Marie MD

    @grimaldi, has someone invaded your home and you used a gun to protect yourself?
    You are more likely to be killed looking for your gun than actually killinng the perpetrators.
    Nobody needs a semi automatic or automatic rifle in their homes. Hunters are the first to tell you that they don't hunt with them.
    We had a case in MD not too long ago where a fugitive had to leave his guns behind in a motel room because the police closed in on him. He went to a nearby house and over powered a whole family who had guns in their house to "protect " against criminals. He tied the whole family up and NOW had various guns that he stole from this family.

    December 20, 2012 06:49 am at 6:49 am |