Republicans: Obama wants to go over the cliff
December 23rd, 2012
11:37 AM ET
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Republicans: Obama wants to go over the cliff

(CNN) – Republican lawmakers said Sunday they believe President Barack Obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff for political purposes.

“I think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. He gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. He gets to cut the military, which Democrats have been calling for for years and he gets to blame Republicans for it,” Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming said on “Fox News Sunday.”

His sentiment was shared by Rep. Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina.

“I believed from the very beginning and continue to believe that the president has no interest at all in not going over the cliff,” Mulvaney told CNN chief political correspondent Candy Crowley on “State of the Union.” “He wants to go over the cliff. Everything I've looked at and seen out of the White House.”

It’s a point Sen. Kent Conrad, D-North Dakota, took issue with on Fox.

“This conversation to me is exactly what’s wrong in Washington,” Conrad countered. “It’s he said, she said, blame the other guy.”

But it’s this type of partisan back and fourth which has fiscal cliff negotiations stalled and has put the country on the precipice of a potential economic crisis.

Still, Barrasso said there’s time yet for a breakthrough when both Congress and the president return to Washington after the Christmas holiday.

“I don’t want us to go over the cliff, I want to find a solution,” Barrasso said. “I think there’s still time. We’re coming back here on the 27th.”

December 27th that is - leaving lawmakers just five days for negotiations before the country falls off the fiscal cliff.

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soundoff (117 Responses)
  1. yasmine

    many have loss respect for the GOP...and think the Teaparty fraction are a bunch of for those who side with the GOP/ your energy...and hateful post about the just sounds like alot of hot air...

    December 23, 2012 06:24 pm at 6:24 pm |
  2. artraveler

    The US House couldn't agree to order a ham sandwich. These little emperors are so hung up on how important they are and their love of Grover's money and favor that they would destroy the country. Well, idiots, you get the tax increases you didn't want to vote forbut now for everyone by not doing anything and I bet you can't come back afterwards and agree to cut some of it back. Just why are you in Washington since you obviously aren't there to serve the American people? Orangeman, your first bill ought to be to eliminate the health and retirement programs for all House members and then maybe their will be a chance for reality when they discover they aren't that imoportant to anyone.

    December 23, 2012 06:27 pm at 6:27 pm |
  3. GuyinVA

    Senator John Barasso, Master Of The Obvious. After their number one priority and holiest of sacraments, abortion (which must be preserved and practiced at all costs), what has the American left pursued more than tax increases and Defense cuts? All they have to do to achieve that now is... nothing. All of our politicians have proven themselves to be experts at doing nothing.

    December 23, 2012 06:34 pm at 6:34 pm |
  4. Larry L

    @Rick McDaniel

    Yes he does.

    Obama wants to raise taxes on the middle class, to give him more money to squander, and then blame it on the Republicans.
    The President has been crystal clear on who he expects to pay more in taxes – those making more than $250k. Did Fox News somehow fail to mention that fact? It's been stated a few thousand times.

    December 23, 2012 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  5. Larry L

    @J. Snedeker

    imam obama's plan all along has been to bring America to it's knees. He's his father's offspring.
    =============================================================================================== Hate, bigotry and racism will cause the Republican Party to fade from existence.

    December 23, 2012 06:42 pm at 6:42 pm |
  6. Rene Janakova

    Of course Obama wants us to go over the cliff. He'll get tons of new tax revenues which will allow him to spend even more and buy more votes for his party. And he'll get to cut Defense which is in keeping with his "light footprint" foreign policy which has thus far led to successes such as Benghazi-gate and the assassination of our Ambassador by terrorists and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, Sharia Law, paid for raping of women, and torture chambers in Egypt. If he didn't want to go over the cliff, all he has to do is agree to the Republicans offer to hike taxes on millionaires in exchange for some spending cuts. It's pretty simple. Instead, Obama keeps moving the goal post, making it impossible to do any deal with him.

    December 23, 2012 06:53 pm at 6:53 pm |
  7. James

    Of course he does. He has nothing to loose and everything to gain. He is such a conniving DA. He has reached his Zenith at blaming everyone else for his failures in leadership. Kind of like CNN.

    December 23, 2012 06:54 pm at 6:54 pm |
  8. marty

    We need the names of the Republicans who are voting against and obstructing the President and their own leader, Mr Boehner......BEFORE....Dec 27. The public should know who the individuals are and hopefully, will lose their office in their next election so that persons truly interested in helping our country will be elected in their place. They have shown themselves to be rigid, inflexible, recalcitrant and downright miserable to work with.

    December 23, 2012 06:54 pm at 6:54 pm |
  9. Reggie from LA

    Why is it that with every initiative proposed by this administration, there is a counter "offer" from the Right? Have you noticed how the majority, if not all counters appeal to the wealthy? No? How about that "Obamacare burden", taking away from big insurance, big doctors and hospitals and big pharma to name a few. Those industries pull in so much money, most of us have no idea. Deregulation of Wall Street. Are you kidding?!! There's some sense in that? Wealth beyond understanding. The President is asking for fair taxation and the GOP "pets" snarl for their wealthy masters, yet again and many of us think they are right for doing so. Is it because we FEAR the "job creators"? Some title that is.

    December 23, 2012 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  10. Military Vet

    The GOP is responsible if we go over the cliff, they refuse to compromise, act rationally, or to asccept responisbility for what they are doing to the middle class. There si no excuse for thier behavior other than a blind allegiance to an outdated ideology.

    December 23, 2012 07:08 pm at 7:08 pm |
  11. marita

    Why NOT have a Flat Tax? Everybody pays the same percentage based upon their income!? But that would be too easy! Not to mention, fair + workable! – @ Marita.

    December 23, 2012 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  12. cbp

    Since the GOP cannot sit down and bargain in good faith they will push us over the cliff. The President can ask Congress to approve a tax cut for the middle class and no one else. The GOP will have to vote for it or continue to lose their support.

    The GOP has pledged their allegiance to groups calling for no increase in taxes. Their hands are tied and very few will opt out of those pledges. The members of Congress who pledged their allegiance did not think it through. IF they did it to get elected they do not want to back down because most of them will face re-election in two years. Is the GOP violating the voter's trust for them to do what is needed by signing pledges which dictate their actions? Is this ethical or does it violate the provisions for their election in the constitution.

    December 23, 2012 07:24 pm at 7:24 pm |
  13. Squigman

    What a pant load. Why is it that the republicans, can't seem to realize that their lies are no longer effective? Get a life. Get real. When the news media and all other forms of enlightenment have pictures, statements and copies of text from the opposing party that state a much different picture and position. It's insulting to see, hear or be bombarded with their stupidity on a daily basis.

    December 23, 2012 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  14. i'malib

    Again, I say tax everyone who has a job at least at a rate of 60% or more. They don't deserve it! It is only fair I receive more income, even though I don't work and don't plan on looking for a job. However, I deserve more as I contribute to stimulating the economy, by collecting welfare, food stamps etc. Pelosi said so, and I believe her. Now, with that said, I have a football game to watch. The rest of you get back to work. Merry Christmas.

    December 23, 2012 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  15. Nodack

    "Obama wants to raise taxes on the middle class, to give him more money to squander, and then blame it on the Republicans."

    Is that what he wants? Why did he ask for the Bush tax breaks for those making over 200k to end and nobody else? I didn't know the middle class were those making over 200k a year. Then after Republicans balked and said he gave them nothing in return. Then Obama compromised and asked for the Bush temporary tax breaks to end for those making over 400k a year and offered cuts in Medicade, Medicare and Social Security against his own party's wishes. Still the Republicans laughed at it..

    Boehner knowing Obama had a mandate from the election since Obama ran his election on the promise of ending the Bush tax breaks on those over 200k and knowing Obama had already compromised decided to come up with at least a slight compromise and offered to end the tax breaks on those making $1,000,000,000 a year and over, but even Boehner the highest ranking Republican couldn't get his fellow Republicans to go along and it never even made it to a vote.

    So you say Obama just wants to stick t to the middle class? I guess you haven't done ANY reading in the past month at all because you are very uninformed. I wonder where you get your facts from? Just kidding, I know where you get your "facts" from. FOX News, the inpartial unbiased "fair and balanced" news.


    December 23, 2012 07:52 pm at 7:52 pm |
  16. David

    Just bring Obamas latest proposal to a vote, it is fair and balanced and cuts more costs then anything concrete the Repubs have proposed – the Repubs are living in a dream state if they think the President is going to embrace their crazy privatization of entitlements which does nothing but creates another to big to fail and gives a profit margin to the mega corps.

    December 23, 2012 08:08 pm at 8:08 pm |
  17. RINO Bill

    Hey, it was the Republicans who hitched up their skirts and ran away from DC whining to the President, "You take care of it." They way their sklulked out of town reminds of the way some NFL owners left town in the middle of the night taking their team with them.

    December 23, 2012 08:15 pm at 8:15 pm |
  18. Craig R B

    The Republican party is finished and that's a good thing because they will never be what they once were many, many years ago....and, that's the Grand Old Party. They now are the GOOFY Old Party. They'll loose big time in 2014 and then the Democrats will get all kinds of great things accomplished.

    December 23, 2012 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |

    Obama wants to see this country implode. He has assisted the Muslim Brotherhood in their growing strength (while watching our Ambassador in Libya get murdered) and he has increased the deficit like no other president in history and is asking for more! The Republicans are absolutely correct. The media and the White House are bringing this country down – in flames.

    December 23, 2012 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  20. Independent Voter

    R. McDaniel wrote "Obama wants to raise taxes on the middle class..." You're living on Uranus.

    December 23, 2012 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  21. Dan

    Congress has the power to pass legislation without the Presidents approval. Every single American knows this. Republicans have been saying the President has to do all the work.
    Learn the laws!!!!

    Congress writes the legislation.

    Republicans are the ones who are clearly taking us over the fiscal cliff just so they can say they never voted to raise taxes. They are so worried about that pledge that they are willing to cost American businesses billions and put thousands if Americans out of work.

    December 23, 2012 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  22. jpmichigan

    I AGREE! Going over the cliff gives Obama more money to spend by taxing everyone, able then to blame the Republicans. If he really cared why would he spend weeks on the road campaigning about the cliff, after winning election, instead of hankering down with one on one negotiations We have another 4 yrs of the same style of governing from Obama like the first 4 yrs, none and no leadership.

    December 23, 2012 08:37 pm at 8:37 pm |
  23. Leroy

    Little Johnny Barrasso is nothing more than a worthless GOPee'r who isn't worth spit...

    December 23, 2012 08:42 pm at 8:42 pm |
  24. Ray E. (Georgia)

    Still blaming somebody else for your problems?

    All Nanny Stater's that still need a Babysitter sign up here.
    The line forms at the left. Check your brain's at the door. You won't need 'em.
    Be prepared to wait a long, long time for your (Acrued Benifits).

    December 23, 2012 08:55 pm at 8:55 pm |
  25. KW64

    Those on this thread who keep longing for the demise of the GOP should try living under permanent one party rule and see the rampant corruption, favoritism and inefficiency that develops. Having lived for many years in Chicago, I can tell you that you need an alternative to force the self-interested to even consider the public interest. No one goes to the legislators to get something done; you go to your ward boss and if you want a favor you have to be ready to do a favor back. That is how a machine corrupts individual voters as well as the politicians and city employees.

    December 23, 2012 08:56 pm at 8:56 pm |
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