House won't vote on any deal until after cliff deadline
UPDATE 4:03 p.m. ET: The House of Representatives will not vote Monday on any potential fiscal cliff deal, meaning the U.S. is technically headed over the fiscal cliff. The House will wrap up Monday around 6:30 p.m. ET. After a House GOP Conference meeting at 5 p.m. ET they will have one vote series and then head out for the evening.
Washington (CNN) - House GOP sources told CNN the House is increasingly unlikely to vote on any fiscal cliff package until New Year's Day, after the midnight deadline and after tax rates have technically already gone up.
The reason is partly about process, but the benefit is political.
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House GOP sources said the main reason the House is not likely to vote before the deadline is because the deal is not yet done, and it still has to go through the Senate–which takes time.
GOP leaders prefer to vote in broad daylight, sources said, instead of in the middle of the night.
"There is no difference in voting at 2 a.m. than tomorrow at 4 p.m.," one of the GOP sources said.
GOP sources admitted there is an added benefit to the Senate's delay: taxes would already be up, so lawmakers could argue that they are voting for tax cuts, as opposed to tax increases.
One GOP source also said that may help get more House Republicans to vote for the deal.
"I wouldn't overestimate it, but a handful may be the difference we need," the source said.
Publicly, House Republican leaders and aides say they remain in a holding pattern until details are released from negotiations between Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, and members are being told to stick around the Capitol.
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I would hope that the House stays to vote on whatever the Senate sends them as soon as they get it. There is no need to wait.
Just proves yet again Boehner is no leader and the worst Speaker in House history. Doesn't matter what the Senate agreees to if Boehner can deliver the votes from his lunatic fringe. It's time to get rid of this obstructionist, filibuster-destructive Repubican Party. NO more Republicans in the House and all up for re-election in the 2014 midterms. Republicans have done NOTHING in 4 years for the PEOPLE. McConnell needs to go most of all and Boehner next. We need leaders not corporate puppets and sole protiectors ot the rich. Republicans are traitors of the People and this fiscal cliiff exists only because Repubicans refused to act on budget issues for more than a year. I am sick of Republicans playing games with the lives of the middle class and the poor for we do not matter in their world of unreality. Shame on this group of nation betrayers.
"Or did you all want someone else to foot the bill?"
I don't know about you, but I've been paying Fed and State taxes for well over 50 years. I expect to continue paying taxes until the day I die. Guess this whole fiscal cliff thingy finally got your attention. Next on your agenda...figure out how a budget works while Republicans are in the White House.
them republicans an boehner and the white house leaders act like perschool children an obama is the president its like they is playing with toys an still not happy
The House Repugs have proven themselves to be nothing more than Taliban-style Economic Terrorists.
Waiting to vote until Jan 1 because it will then mean voting for a tax cut instead of raising taxes? Americans will see right through that! Oh ........... nah, they won't. We are the most "incurious" people around. Lemmings!
This clearly showed that Republicans in congress have more respect for Grover Norquist than the American voters.
GOP sources admitted there is an added benefit to the Senate's delay: taxes would already be up, so lawmakers could argue that they are voting for tax cuts, as opposed to tax increases.
NICE to know how stupid they think we are.
They waited until stock market to close!
GOP geniuses; Yeah! If we vote today, people will say we voted for a tax increase. Let's wait unil we go over the cliff, allow taxes to go up, then we can vote for the compromise, which means we can say we voted for lower taxes! We are geniuses!!!
for "myviews"... you wrote "if any employees are fired, well, they can collect unemployment."
since we are gonna go over the cliff...we (i am part of the 2 million) the unemployed have lost our benefits...you need to get your facts straight....
GOP geniuses!
Hey, they are getting a pay raise and don't have to worry about the things we regular citizens do, why should they care. Just goes to show the kind of jerks that got voted into office!!!!
The republicans only care about themselves and hurting people. The people have spoken . Reublicans stop being so hateful. People need to eat,work and someplace to stay. Republicans you all need to stop playing with people lives, because you all in congress don't have anything to worry about. Ordinary people have things to worry about. You all in Congress need to put your personal differences aside and think about us ordinary people.
"GOP sources admitted there is an added benefit to the Senate's delay: taxes would already be up, so lawmakers could argue that they are voting for tax cuts, as opposed to tax increases.
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Let me see if I understand... They won't vote to keep taxes from going so they can say they voted to make taxes go down? That's not not preventing a fire so you could be a hero and put it out! Are the people in the Red states really stupid enough to fall for that line of B.S.?
Big surprise there.
So wait until 1 Jan when taxes technically go up and then vote to look like you're cutting taxes. And we wonder why we need late night comics with these knuckleheads around.
I honestly believe that all the house senators have been there to long !!! Fire them all they knew a year and a half ago that this was needing to be addressed and did nothing! Americans are tiried of paying them to just set around and not do the job they were elected to do!!!
Do the Republicans actually beleive that after all this stalling the American people are stupid enough to thank them for allowing taxes to go up and then vote to give them back lower taxes after the country has gone over the fiscal cliff. They have had years to deal with these issues instead they chose to be a do nothing congress and have risked the financial security of the country and the citizens. The country really needs at least a three party system and then maybe all the nonsense would stop.
Congress won't stick around to make sure the job gets done? Nice work ethic.
This is what happens when a portion of Congress is sent to burn government down rather to help improve it.
This is a crime! The Republican Party playing games at this late date when this could all have been settled way back when. Do they really think we're too stupid to see through their childishness? Do they think we can't figure out what they're trying to do to this country – well, to the middle class of this country? No, I guess there are some tea people who go along with it, all to their own detriment. 2014 can't get here soon enough!
If anything, waiting until Jan 1, 2013 to vote proves that Boehner never really took the fiscal cliff seriously to begin with. Surely even he realizes that outside the FOX News bubble of ignorance, folks do understand that after the vote, Boehner will triumph his "Republicans lowered taxes on middle class Americans" talking points to all who will listen. Indeed. Those of us who understand his game plan are waiting for him to crow over this newest absurdity of his.
All this BS for a deal that does nothing!!!
A real bunch of self serving jerks. And just think, the has-been GOP VP nominee is still crowing about his position in the money process.
Reap what you sow southern boys and girls.