House won't vote on any deal until after cliff deadline
UPDATE 4:03 p.m. ET: The House of Representatives will not vote Monday on any potential fiscal cliff deal, meaning the U.S. is technically headed over the fiscal cliff. The House will wrap up Monday around 6:30 p.m. ET. After a House GOP Conference meeting at 5 p.m. ET they will have one vote series and then head out for the evening.
Washington (CNN) - House GOP sources told CNN the House is increasingly unlikely to vote on any fiscal cliff package until New Year's Day, after the midnight deadline and after tax rates have technically already gone up.
The reason is partly about process, but the benefit is political.
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House GOP sources said the main reason the House is not likely to vote before the deadline is because the deal is not yet done, and it still has to go through the Senate–which takes time.
GOP leaders prefer to vote in broad daylight, sources said, instead of in the middle of the night.
"There is no difference in voting at 2 a.m. than tomorrow at 4 p.m.," one of the GOP sources said.
GOP sources admitted there is an added benefit to the Senate's delay: taxes would already be up, so lawmakers could argue that they are voting for tax cuts, as opposed to tax increases.
One GOP source also said that may help get more House Republicans to vote for the deal.
"I wouldn't overestimate it, but a handful may be the difference we need," the source said.
Publicly, House Republican leaders and aides say they remain in a holding pattern until details are released from negotiations between Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, and members are being told to stick around the Capitol.
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All this fiscal cliff talk is giving me vertigo.
Congratulations to the Republican Party. They have now stepped foot into the dustbin of irrelevant political parties currently occupied by the Whigs and the Tories.
Will the Tea Party/Republicans buy into his game? Are they really that stupid! No answer necessary, we know the answer! What a horrible mess they are costing the U.S. of A.
They will spend the next 4 years proposing bills, and then voting against them (or filibustering them) just to make our President look bad. No bill that actually does any good for the American people will be passed by them. Why you ask? The answer: If it makes the president look good, we (repubs) are against it.
Republican Economic Terrorist... what a pile of garbage. They should be ashamed of what they have done to the once Grande Ole Party... .really really sad.
Throw the traitorist bums out!
And why are we paying them? Did you know they got a pay raise this year?
"GOP leaders prefer to vote in broad daylight, sources said, instead of in the middle of the night."
I think the majority of Americans would rather you vote at night than let America fall of the fiscal cliff. "In the of the night" suggests secrecy, but this will be record of the vote, the same as if they voted during the day.
Cowards!!! All of them... These 535 do not care about America, hardworking taxpayers or our troops!!! We must fire all of them in 2014. They all must go now!!
If they work for a private company, they all would have been gone a long time ago.
Once again they are all cowards.
So funny seeing the poor libs here crying. GO OVER THE CLIFF! I don't mind paying more taxes as long as we stop giving welfare and free cell phones to everyone. Cry libs cry!
Typical Repubs, playing politics instead of serving the people.
The House will vote after we go over the "cliff" so they can vote to lower taxes and then say, "See! President Obama raised taxes and we cut them!"
And the silly, ignorant, memory-of-a-gnat GOP base will lap it up...
Pathetic!
This inaction by the house of representatives just goes to show how out of touch and insulated from the American people they are. I'm telling you, term limits are the answer. How stupid do they think their voters are that they will fall for tax cuts vs tax increases separated by one day?
Here's the vote they should have in the House:
Who wants to vote?
Then all of America will see who the obstructionists really are. (Hint: The initials are G.O.P.)
Yeah, so technically they will be voting for a tax cut, even though if they voted today it would be a tax increase.
Are we going to let them get away with claiming they vote for a tax cut?
Grover Norquist proves once again that he personally owns the GOTP and every single member of it.
Just saw Senator McCain on tv having a tantrum about President Obamas press conference. Senator McCain needs to get over himself.
I hope this vote fails and I don`t car if it is at the hands of the Tea Party rightwingers or some yet to be identified group of progressive Congress members. All this BS over a measily $600B [which is nothing]. Simpson Bowles called for $2.6 TRILLION in NEW REVENUE and Republicans are constantly crowing about how courageous, tough and wonderful SB is.
I hope any politician that has the nerve to stand before a microphone and looks for an "atta-boy" because of this so called deal is hosed down with the effluent from a sewage plant. They will have done nothing worthy of praise or media gloating.
Good,let the gop goofball party payback their stupid donors with the highest rates possible ,all on the gop and the slob grover norquest ,I guess you don't always get what you pay for caviet emptor,let the buyer beware !!!!!
This fiscal cliff issue has been on the table and coming to an end like a asteroid heading towards the earth. The GOP just sat and did nothing for over 12+ months, I guess they were hoping for Mittens to win the election so they could do whatever they want to do. It's clearly put, 'it's us verses them." There job should have been on the line to get this deal figured out, it's just that simple believe it or not. Boehner and his insane party can't do anything right. They're responsible for a lot our mishaps we deal with day to day and its just getting worst. The GOP should get there checks garnish for each day they do not come up with a deal.
Can someone please explain to a Canadian how Grover Norquist and his pledge can overrule the will of the electorate? Why is this even allowed???
Boehner and tea people in the house and senate needs to go now!!
Disgusting! Traitors? Yes the people in congress reponsible for this mess are traitors, and should, I pray, be punished as such. To see things as they are now, and to think about the minds from where it started takes a great imagination."
What difference does it make when it gets voted on ? Whatever the deal is, the House Republicans are not going to pass it. They don't know when to compromise, they don't know how to compromise, and they certainly do not know how to embrace the responsibility governing. But, to be fair, they are nimble at the practice of obstructing everything useful.
Hey, uh, Mike. The free cell phones and already been proven to be nothing more than urban legend. Did not happen. When you have facts come back and see us again. Till then you just muddy the water. And by the way, I have seen more libs ready to go over the cliff then anyone else.
This is a chance to reject the current plan and force the GOP to accept what the liberals want.
when did the majority become the minority? something seems backwards or is it the last gasp of the gop hoping for a miricle. No its the 1% doing watever it can to try to take the last the 98% have.
Congressman Joe Hecht just voted himself to one term. Adios