With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill
June 23rd, 2013
10:50 AM ET
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With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill

(CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul says he’ll vote “no” on the Senate’s bipartisan immigration reform bill, since it doesn’t include his amendment that would grant Congress power to determine whether the U.S. southern border is secure,

The Kentucky Republican had previously been open to supporting the measure, which includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that’s contingent on bolstering border security. Paul introduced an amendment that would have required Congress to vote on whether the border was properly secure, but it failed to gain approval this week.

Without that inclusion, Paul said definitively on CNN’s “State of the Union” he would be a “no” vote.

“Without some congressional authority and without border security first, I can't support the final bill,” Paul told chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

Supporters of the comprehensive immigration reform bill need 60 votes to gain passage in the Senate, but hope a larger majority will help propel the measure in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives, where its prospects appear dim. With that goal in mind, an amendment was introduced this week that vastly ramps up resources along the southern border, including 700 miles of new fence.

But Paul said Sunday that provision wasn’t sufficient, saying throwing dollars at border security programs wasn’t any guarantee the problem would be fixed.

“We've thrown a lot of money at a lot of problems in our country,” Paul said. “To me, what really tells me that they're serious would be letting Congress vote on whether the border's secure. If the people in the country want to be assured that we will not get another 10 million people to come here illegally over the next decade, they have to believe they get a vote through their Congress.”

Predicting the measure would pass the Senate but fail in the House, Paul said he didn’t trust the White House to accurately assess whether or not full security had been achieved on the border.

“I don't trust this administration or a Republican administration to really make a valid judgment,” he said. “I want Congress and the people to have the right to decide whether the border's secure.”

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  1. Tyler

    @Steven, I don't think these people are against immigration, they're just against the immigration bill being passed by congress. I personally think immigration is great as long as the people who come here from different countries do so LEGALLY and follow ALL of our immigration laws. As long as they follow the laws and respect our country and our history and our way of life, I am proud to welcome them to America.

    June 23, 2013 09:45 pm at 9:45 pm |
  2. HJC

    He is spot on with his case here. Without oversight we are just putting air into a flat tire.

    June 23, 2013 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  3. giatny

    The very idea that the Senate is going to vote on a 2000 page bill
    without reading it is an insult to every American citizens. This bill
    opens the door for terrorists to stream in and get legal status with
    nothing more than a piece of paper purporting that they have been in the country since 12/31/11. There will be no other vetting or enforcement for years. I am not sure any reform bill could be worse or more corrupt than this one. Maybe Rand could filibuster until the American people learn
    how bad this bill is. The GOP is too stupid to survive.

    June 23, 2013 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  4. Cam

    Rand Paul +1.....Marco Rubio -1

    June 23, 2013 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  5. giatny

    The fact that the Senate plans to vote on a bill they haven't read is an
    insult to every American citizen. It is an open door to any terrorists with
    nothing more than a piece of paper purporting that they entered before
    12/31/11. There will be no vetting or enforcement for years. Maybe Rand can filibuster long enough for the American people to learn how
    corrupt and outrageous this bill is. The GOP is too stupid to survive
    but hopefully they can save us from this travesty.

    June 23, 2013 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  6. Randolph Phillips

    Paul favors amnesty for illegals, and his amendment and promised vote against the Bill–which doesn't matter anyway, since he voted to bring the bill up when 41 "no" votes would have killed it–would have still allowed amnesty, more legal immigration, and trillions of dollars in new state, local, and federal spending. No one who votes for this bill favors reduced federal spending, lower taxes, and ending the debt. No one, including al those pro=amnesty, fake "budget hawks" in both parties–especially the "mocerate" nut Paul Ryan, a way back amnesty supporter.

    I will support Rand Paul against the Bush-Rubio outfit in the primaries–but I will never vote for a liberal nor amnesty for illegals candidate.

    June 23, 2013 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  7. CMI

    I think the govt needs to get off the backs of the wonderful hard working Mexican immigrants who are carrying our economy. I also do not think they need to become naturalized citizens. They didn't ask for that, They just want their kids to American citizens. Going forward we need an intelligent relationship with Mexico that recognizes the realities of the times.

    June 23, 2013 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  8. scooter

    Forget immigration. I want EX-igration. Throw all the illegals out, and while we're at it. let's empty our jails and export them to Pakistan.

    June 23, 2013 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  9. Wally

    strange comments: Unless the above commentators are American Indians, they are , or are descendants of immigrants. So they are defaming their grandparents and parents, and even themselves. Now- a shocking issue; I think Ron Paul is a traitor, should be charged as one and taken to court. His vilification of the US, its policies and people suggests to me that he really is a closet fascist, and I sure don't want anything to do with his Mussolini philosophies.

    June 23, 2013 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm |
  10. Anonymous

    All you have to do is change the 14th amendment and 90%+ of your immigration problems will be solved. Too bad the libtards wont do it cause they need more slaves to vote for them.

    June 23, 2013 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm |
  11. FrankinSD

    The "congressional control" amendment would doubtless have constituted a legislative veto provision. We have been around that unconstitutional corner before, as Senator Paul would know if he had the requisite qualifications to be a senator.

    June 23, 2013 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm |
  12. Paul

    Rand Paul is the same guy that said any store owner can prevent anyone from entering their store because of the color of their skin. He is too much of a right winger to get support from most people

    June 23, 2013 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm |
  13. Tom Howard

    Rand Paul is as illogical and impractical as one can get. This Congress, particularly the House, can't decide what time it is. Does Rand Paul REALLY think they can be trusted to make a decision on border security? Just think; there would be a motion to declare the border secure, and the Republicans would promptly fillibuster it in the Senate. Makes sense to me!! NOT!

    June 23, 2013 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm |
  14. stainpouch

    If anyone's interested, I suggest looking into how Mexico treats illegal aliens. Their naturalized citizenry never gain the right to vote and any public statement critical of the government is grounds for their deportation. I don't think that a naturalized citizen can ever buy property either–but I'm not sure about that. They take other steps that might surprise you. Clearly, if we adopted their practices there wouldn't be a problem. Since the Pauls don't believe in Federal government, however, I really don't understand, given an ideal Pauline world, how they expect to enforce any measure whatsoever in this governmentless world they propose.

    June 23, 2013 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm |
  15. richard ives

    Rand Paul is a smart man. Congress is a completely logical and reliable forum in which to determine the safety of our borders. RANDY 2016 BABY!!! God willing...

    June 23, 2013 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm |
  16. svann

    I trust Congress to vote on whether the border is secure.
    (that was sarcasm)

    June 23, 2013 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm |
  17. rswon

    Typical Tea Party reaction, "I'm not getting exactly what I want, so I'll just be a douche". Guess what? Politics ain't Burger King or as a famous song stated, "you can't always get what you want But if you try sometime, you just might find You get what you need"

    June 23, 2013 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm |
  18. blf83

    Mr. Paul is a right wing, radical nutcase who is not interested in logic or that which is best for the country. He abhors compromise – the essential ingredient in governance in a democracy. He never learned to play well with others.

    June 23, 2013 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm |
  19. Oz

    Can't say that I'm a fan of Paul, however kudos to him for taking a stand on an issue that's going to determine how this country is shaped over the next 10-20 years. I believe Hispanics have their own secret agenda to flood and take over the United States.

    June 23, 2013 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm |
  20. Dr.A.

    We've only paid twice for a 700 mile fence and our lying congress has given us 36 miles! You are right Rand, I would trust and liberal as far as you can spit them!!! Interesting how Demon-crats only care about their own next re-election... no matter the cost....

    June 23, 2013 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm |
  21. Pete

    Rands against anything thats progressive for America and if we have illegals here as the sanctumonious republicans say then make them legal so they pay their fair share as we do...And for that fence its rediculous being built because you ignorents never thought that more illegals come in from coastal states east of Texas than you'd ever imagine..Mississippi,Louisiana,Alabama and Florida just to name a few have much more illegals coming in by boat or other means than across any border fence since before most of you were born..All you're doing is giving the security ,military keys to Fort Knox to take our money because that fence will only be a temperary solution to a much bigger problem that started over 2 centuries ago coming through Ellis Island if any of you know where that is or do you!Remember a place where people are created as equals,that's the American dream so tell that to republicans who obviously forgot who they serve,the constituents not the corporations that voted them there!!

    June 23, 2013 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm |
  22. John

    I read all these comments about our immigration system isnt broken. Our immigration system has been broken ever since congress put the first limits on how many people from one country could migrate to the US.

    June 23, 2013 10:46 pm at 10:46 pm |
  23. Babbs

    Why not apply and come in legally? I don't support law breakers being rewarded with citizenship or permanent residency .My only exception are children who are brought here by parents and have no say in what happened. They have grown up in America. If they are not involved in illegal activities and are productive citizens they should be granted opportunity to become citizens. Those immigrants that come here and open business did so legally. Also you may notice that many of these business hire their own family members that they sponsor to immigrate into this country. These are low wage jobs that do not pay much in the amount of social security or Medicare or taxes. No One is forgetting the history of this country and Ellis island, however legal entry verse illegal is the issue. The government of any country should have control over who is allowed in and who is not!!!

    June 23, 2013 10:47 pm at 10:47 pm |
  24. Ferrari guy

    How do you spell DEMOCRAT in the white house for 2016? Republicans better start to get a clue.

    June 23, 2013 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm |
  25. David

    You can't compare immigration in the 1800's and early 1900's to today. For one thing, There wasn't social welfare programs then. An immigrant then had to fight for success, assimilate, and push their children to take advantage of their sacrifice for them. Today's immigrant from Mexico enjoys a easy transition to food stamps, free healthcare, and are rewarded with more money when they have more kids. Lets not forget they come from a very corrupt society that does not put a premium on integrity. 40% or more have been on a social welfare. That's not good for the country, that's a drain. Securing the border isn't 100% doable, we should focus on making someone prove their worth on the road to citizenship. Convicted of a felony or gang membership? No chance for citizenship. Taken social welfare or cheated the IRS? No citizenship or green card.

    June 23, 2013 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm |
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