With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill
June 23rd, 2013
10:50 AM ET
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With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill

(CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul says he’ll vote “no” on the Senate’s bipartisan immigration reform bill, since it doesn’t include his amendment that would grant Congress power to determine whether the U.S. southern border is secure,

The Kentucky Republican had previously been open to supporting the measure, which includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that’s contingent on bolstering border security. Paul introduced an amendment that would have required Congress to vote on whether the border was properly secure, but it failed to gain approval this week.

Without that inclusion, Paul said definitively on CNN’s “State of the Union” he would be a “no” vote.

“Without some congressional authority and without border security first, I can't support the final bill,” Paul told chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

Supporters of the comprehensive immigration reform bill need 60 votes to gain passage in the Senate, but hope a larger majority will help propel the measure in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives, where its prospects appear dim. With that goal in mind, an amendment was introduced this week that vastly ramps up resources along the southern border, including 700 miles of new fence.

But Paul said Sunday that provision wasn’t sufficient, saying throwing dollars at border security programs wasn’t any guarantee the problem would be fixed.

“We've thrown a lot of money at a lot of problems in our country,” Paul said. “To me, what really tells me that they're serious would be letting Congress vote on whether the border's secure. If the people in the country want to be assured that we will not get another 10 million people to come here illegally over the next decade, they have to believe they get a vote through their Congress.”

Predicting the measure would pass the Senate but fail in the House, Paul said he didn’t trust the White House to accurately assess whether or not full security had been achieved on the border.

“I don't trust this administration or a Republican administration to really make a valid judgment,” he said. “I want Congress and the people to have the right to decide whether the border's secure.”

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  1. VCMD

    Not only they should ensure border security (which all President's pledge to protect as it's their duty) they should also do the following before any form of amnesty is granted to people who have come here illegally (or overstayed legal visal).
    1. Strict jail terms for people breaking immigration law in future. Even the current ones should take some courses and be on probation for couple of years.
    2. Create a system where all employers (private, government) and law enforcement agencies can use to verify legal status for all employees before hiring them.
    3. Make it a felony with minimum jail terms to hire an employee without verifying they are legally authorized to work using the above system. The jail term should be for the hiring person.
    4. The companies should be fined with fines increasing with repeat offense.

    June 23, 2013 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm |
  2. Pete

    Remember people more illegals have been deported than anytime in American history under Pres.Obama because you and republicans wanted it right..Remember who built this great country ,its immigrents that built all these cities,states and were proud of one thing,they were Americans!!Just remember the real native Americans that were here before us ,the Indians and spent their times on government reservations because we thought they were different than us,how much different are we right now from years ago ,not much the way we act toward others different then us wouldn't you agree!!

    June 23, 2013 10:54 pm at 10:54 pm |
  3. coolio

    I think I like this guy called Paul. A lib.

    June 23, 2013 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm |
  4. roadrager1

    This Bill is just National Suicide, and all these congressmen keep saying they want these illegals to come out of the shadows. What !!!! out of the shadows!!!!! they are everywhere I go........Walmart, Homedepot, seven-eleven.

    June 23, 2013 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm |
  5. biologist speeking

    I am having to do tons of legal paper work just to bring my fiancee' and daughter to the US. If successful. before I am through I will have spent over $15,000.00 and well over a year to do this legally. That does not include the fees for application, medical exams, fews for my immigration lawyer, transportation for them to the US and other costs. Yet the illegals want if for free after breaking the Federal immigration laws, not paying their taxes and being a burden to the country as a whole. Yes, I am a descendent of immigrants. But we did it legally. We did not break the law. We have fought for our country from the beginning of our country. We have paid our taxes and have been good citizens. To be a good citizen you must first honor the countries laws. Can't do that? Then go back to where you came. I have no sympathy for those who do not respect law of the land.

    June 23, 2013 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm |
  6. Joe

    I hope that Paul and other supporters of the Constitution and the Rule of Law will initiate a "real: filibuster – I actually expect them to do it if they really are against the Bill. Too many say the "right things" for political reasons, all the while knowing what they're fighting will still pass as long as they don't do everything they can. Sen. Howell Heflin was very good at saying "pass" until his was the last vote, if it wouldn't swing the vote for the Democrats, he'd vote against the liberal Bill since the People of Alabama wanted him to be conservative. Yet, when his vote was the deciding factor, he'd vote liberal every time- he knew how to play the political game. Remember, he slept during the WhiteWater hearings and showed himself for the fool he was.

    June 23, 2013 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm |
  7. GAK

    Paul's amendment is a JOKE!! There is no way to make the borders of the US 100% secure and he knows it! Its just another way for him to say "Hey,I tried to look presidential!" He had no intention of voting for ANY immigration bill,Why doesn't he just come out and say it, MAN UP PAUL!!! Tell us what you are really after and quite being such a pu$%% I don't see him saying that Cubans coming in to the US illegally is wrong!! Why is that Paul?? why is Hispanics crossing over from Mexico wrong but Cuba right?. Why is it illegal for Haitian but not Cubans? If we are going to make any immigration reform than ANYONE coming here illegally needs to be sent back REGARDLESS of where they came from!!

    June 23, 2013 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm |
  8. legitimmigrant

    This bill won't stop future amnesties, won't guarantee a secure border, won't stop employers from hiring illegal aliens, won't remove illegal aliens from the jobs they already hold, and won't put 1 single American back to work. It will, however, give 11 million illegal aliens work permits. Is it worth spending $6.3 trillion to amnesty 11 million illegal aliens and to put millions of Americans out of work?

    June 23, 2013 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm |
  9. rob

    this guy ron paul ..worse then george bush.. i dont liike him at all

    June 23, 2013 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm |
  10. Thomas

    The above photo say's it all .

    "Ted" Cruz , Michele Bachmann and Rand Paul.

    June 23, 2013 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm |
  11. Ed1

    As Reid would say to anything a Republican would want DOA and it should be.

    June 23, 2013 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm |
  12. ntlcntprty

    I think it is reasonable to require the Representatives of the House to vote that they believe this immigration bill or at any other time that says "the border is secure". Thus, the people who vote for these politicians can hold them accountable. The politicians will not be able to "weasel" out of what the voters want to happen to the border.

    June 23, 2013 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm |
  13. Josh

    Once again, here is the mainstream media mischaracterizing the border fence amendment. In fact, it gives Janet Napolitano 100% discretion to decide where – if at all (totally her decision) – fencing must be placed. She will, of course, choose 'no' fencing. It also gives Homeland Security 10 years to make that decision. Amnesty now, security never.

    June 23, 2013 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm |
  14. Larry

    IvotedforObama, you obviously only see RACE as an issue. WAKE UP you idiot and see people for who they truly are before you find yourself just another dead statistic on the road to nowhere. I mean you no harm, but I REALLY wish you would for ONCE try to see the TRUTH when it smacks you in the face. STEVEN yes they would be paying taxes just like the rest of us IF they chose to come here LEGALLY. We don't want someone who has no respect for our laws. WE do need LEGAL immigration reform. We do need to make it easier for people to become citizens of our country. I understand that, but can't these people at least do that within our laws? We don't need more lawbreakers in this country, we already have enough of our own filling prisons. We need to make the immigration laws easier for people to immigrate legally into this country from Mexico and beyond. That's all. OUR immigrants from other places did it legally, why can't they? If it's a problem with the system then let's fix that. Our government has LOTS of problems, let's fix THOSE first.

    June 23, 2013 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm |
  15. Rex Remes

    Way to go, Rand Paul !!

    Definitely has my vote in 2016 (if he were to run for President).

    June 23, 2013 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm |
  16. Larry

    RAND PAUL 2016! Let's get someone who WILL fix those government problems with REAL solutions.

    June 23, 2013 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm |
  17. Humphrey

    Rand stands for Americans again! My sister in-law of 7 yrs is here legally, from Vera Cruz who still is not a citizen, she met my brother when he was serving in the Navy. Make it easier for her & others like her to be a legal citizen. Its not ok to break the law! I voted for Ron Paul. My family has been here sense the inception of he United States. People who think they dont half to work to earn things are wrong.....i work my butt off, what this country needs is for the people who are here to stop being lazy & do there job well, we really dont need more people here & absolutely not people who break the law. Its already in the law we build 700 miles of fence & its not done. I dont trust dems or republicans. I believe in Libery & what this country is suposed to be, the only party that seams to think this way also is the Libertarian Party & Rand Paul is one, so im not suprized i agree with his actions. All Men & Women are equal & have the freedom of choice in his country. If you like men & your a man, OK or a women & like Ladys OK. Your pregnant, im a dude, not my call, your choice (Im Sick of all the gray lines) if you break in my house, i have the choice & "right" to shoot you, to protect my family. Best wishes to you all ( whatever your beliefs)

    June 23, 2013 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm |
  18. radicaltruth

    some ppl here, just like Cato, mischaracterize and broadbrush the false claim that those against illegal immigration or awarding those who broke our nations laws (and some who additionally became identity thieves) with a path to citizenship are against any immigration period. that's completely bogus and a straw man argument. no one who breaks the law to be present here illegally should be granted citizenship. temporary work visa, legal residency, maybe... but never citizenship. give them a change to pay fines, and a path to legal status.. but not citizenship. after a grace period all those who don't come forward to be documented – and all future persons present or attempting to enter illegally should be on a fast track to immediate deportation with dna taken to ensure no future chance at legal status or path to anything in the USA.

    June 23, 2013 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm |
  19. Rex Remes

    No to amnesty.

    No to legal status.

    The illegals broke the law (many laws), so they need to return to their home country. They enjoyed some good times, but all illegal good things need to come to an end.

    If American wants/needs some immigrants, I say the country should CHOOSE who they want to come (and include a large percentage of people who actually have an education).

    June 23, 2013 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm |
  20. Josh

    These politicians were elected (ostensibly) by American citizens to represent American citizens. Why are they spending so much time, energy and money representing criminal non-citizens? Not a great way to start a relationship with your "new country" either, by the way... To live in defiance of it's laws and demand (from a government that does not represent you) that they change the laws because that would be nice for you. Go home – because you came here in violation of our laws – and then get in line.

    June 23, 2013 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm |
  21. Chet Gustavson

    Legal is legal. Illegal is illegal. Accept this or demonstrate your own insanity, the choice is yours.

    I don't care about those tired arguments about what jobs we natives will or will not do, or the supposed need for immigrants to come here and buy up our streets and neighborhoods, making us tourists in our own hometowns who wonder when we're going to need a passport just to leave our own houses. We need our culture, our identity, our very sovereignty protected and preserved. We need our country back.

    The politicians couldn't care less as long as the fundraisers keep attracting chumps willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a plate of food and listen to them campaign when they should be mingling with the constituents and then going back to Washington to vote as instructed by the FREAKIN' PEOPLE, as opposed to the special interest groups or whatever demographic the latest poll says is the fastest growing or most influential.

    There are not enough people like Mr. Paul. We are approaching the point of no return, if we have not already passed it.

    I've heard it said that Obama's chip on his shoulder is against colonialism and countries created through colonialism, such as our country, and that he fetishizes third world countries and wants to turn America into one of them by bankrupting it (which he is doing a perfect job of). I wonder if it ever occurred to him or any member of his party, or any of the other corrupt career, elitist politicians feeding off the sweaty, buckled backs of the working class, native born Americans who bare the brunt of the failed leftist policies we've been dealing with for so long that this country is currently being colonized by Mexico and other countries located south of the Rio Grande. And it makes me feel oh so safe to know that al qaida training manuals have been found in the wilderness between the US and Mexico, because arabian terrorists look enough like hispanics that they can blend in with them as they all sneak into this country.

    We are being invaded and plundered by the vikings of the 21st century. All the while, our federal government is bending over backward to enable that, and tirelessly fighting against the efforts of those who would stand in the way of it, like the Arizona state government.

    It's not racist, illegal, unethical, immoral, or unkind to defend your country from invasion. It's insane and suicidal to fail to do so.

    Our federal government is overwhelmingly corrupt and needs to be completely fired and restaffed with people whose only interest is to faithfully represent their constituents, with no regard for kickbacks, pensions, obamacare-exempt health insurance, or any of the other countless perks and criminal gifts and bribes they pass around from time to time.

    June 23, 2013 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm |
  22. Advocate Mom

    Being against S.744 is not synonymous with being against immigration. Lawful immigration is a wonderful thing. Giving amnesty to those who came here illegally is a whole 'nother subject. It is unbelievable how people are pushing for S.744 to be passed believing it is a nice fluffy immigration reform bill. There are parts to this bill that are reprehensible. Take, for example, the section about Falsifying US Citizenship; While it is a felony to use a stolen SS#, this bill gives the Attorney General and the Dept of Homeland Security Secy (currently Eric Holder & Janet Napolitano) the right to issue waivers to anyone for whom not granting them citizenship could be deemed a hardship for their parents, spouse, children, etc. And there is a section called "Limitation on Review" which says "No court shall have jurisdiction to review any decision or action of the Attorney General or the [DHS] Secretary" regarding a waiver they issued to someone guilty of Falsifying US Citizenship. No one is above the law! That is unconstitutional! Now amendments adding everything but the kitchen sink are being added to try and make the bill more palatable. They supposedly beefed up the border security requirements....NOT...not when the bill also gives Napolitano permission to say "Nope" without any Congressional review. Read the bill! Senators AND citizens!

    June 23, 2013 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm |
  23. cristo

    Stand with Rand!

    June 23, 2013 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm |
  24. wyattlaman

    @ Steven What jobs will these millions of illegal immigrants be taking once they are able to pay taxes? It sounds great that we will have all these new taxpayers... but we don't have enough jobs for the taxpayers we have now. 11 million new "taxpayers" will actually be new welfare recipients.

    The system has to crash and burn for it to be rebuilt in Obama's vision. This is just another way to speed up the process.

    June 23, 2013 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm |
  25. John

    How about if we limited the amount of taxation, strangling regulation, and opened up the loan flood gates and gifts to the Americans that lost their businesses ??? This administration will offer pay as you please interest free small business gifts to foreigners, but not to those who have made life long contributions ? Hardly seems to fit that "fairness" crap we keep hearing about. I know I'm at CNN, so please somebody remind me that I'm a racist...Tools.

    June 23, 2013 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm |
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