With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill
June 23rd, 2013
10:50 AM ET
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With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill

(CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul says he’ll vote “no” on the Senate’s bipartisan immigration reform bill, since it doesn’t include his amendment that would grant Congress power to determine whether the U.S. southern border is secure,

The Kentucky Republican had previously been open to supporting the measure, which includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that’s contingent on bolstering border security. Paul introduced an amendment that would have required Congress to vote on whether the border was properly secure, but it failed to gain approval this week.

Without that inclusion, Paul said definitively on CNN’s “State of the Union” he would be a “no” vote.

“Without some congressional authority and without border security first, I can't support the final bill,” Paul told chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

Supporters of the comprehensive immigration reform bill need 60 votes to gain passage in the Senate, but hope a larger majority will help propel the measure in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives, where its prospects appear dim. With that goal in mind, an amendment was introduced this week that vastly ramps up resources along the southern border, including 700 miles of new fence.

But Paul said Sunday that provision wasn’t sufficient, saying throwing dollars at border security programs wasn’t any guarantee the problem would be fixed.

“We've thrown a lot of money at a lot of problems in our country,” Paul said. “To me, what really tells me that they're serious would be letting Congress vote on whether the border's secure. If the people in the country want to be assured that we will not get another 10 million people to come here illegally over the next decade, they have to believe they get a vote through their Congress.”

Predicting the measure would pass the Senate but fail in the House, Paul said he didn’t trust the White House to accurately assess whether or not full security had been achieved on the border.

“I don't trust this administration or a Republican administration to really make a valid judgment,” he said. “I want Congress and the people to have the right to decide whether the border's secure.”

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  1. Justasaying

    Sounds like a common sense amendment. Then again, our Congress and Senate never had much common sense to begin with. A for effort on Rand's part here.

    June 24, 2013 02:24 am at 2:24 am |
  2. Anonymous

    Paraphrase, "Without every detail I want, I can't compromise at all."

    June 24, 2013 02:28 am at 2:28 am |
  3. psycros

    30% of inmates in America's federal prisons are illegal aliens.
    65% of those abusing hospital emergency rooms are illegal aliens
    Illegal aliens pay no state or federal taxes. Anyone who claims otherwise is a fool or a liar. You need proper identification to file taxes and illegals don't have it.
    Illegal aliens have no loyalty to the United States.
    Illegal aliens are responsible for the majority of crimes along the southwest border.
    Illegal aliens send a large percentage of their illegal, non-taxed income back to Mexico and Central America. That money is gone from the economy and never returns.
    Illegals receive free schooling, housing, SNAP and other federal benefits in many states which means Americans are robbed of those resources.
    Illegals rarely learn English and therefore never integrate into society. There's no road to citizenship for those who don't speak the common language.
    Illegal aliens are victimized by unethical companies who don't want to pay a living wage. Supporting illegal immigration is the the same as supporting slavery.
    Illegal aliens have no civic pride because they are not part of the communities they reside in. More illegals means the neighborhoods and towns they infest go downhill at an alarming rate.
    If you want your teenager to find a job, don't support illegal immigration.
    If you want your schools to focus on the three R's instead of forcing American kids to learn Spanish, don't support illegal immigration.
    If you want your neighborhoods to stay beautiful and safe, don't support illegal immigration.
    If you want your dollars to stay in America, oppose those who support illegal immigration.
    If you want your voice to be heard over the screams of illegals stuffing the ballot boxes, FIGHT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

    While you still can.

    June 24, 2013 02:34 am at 2:34 am |
  4. norm

    Legal immigration is one thing; illegal is another. Why should millions of uneducated people from South and Central America be able to inundate the nation, changing demographics and draining the national treasury for benefits?
    Let them immigrate legally like so many millions before them, all the way back to the beginning of the nation.
    Illegal means illegal, and if the rule of law is ignored, the US will eventually degrade into anarchy or dictatorship.

    June 24, 2013 02:57 am at 2:57 am |
  5. Mr. Derp

    Stand with Rand!

    June 24, 2013 03:00 am at 3:00 am |
  6. Matt

    You are completely missing the point. Very few people, if anyone at all, are against immigration. They are against ILLEGAL immigration. These immigrants you discuss will not actually be paying taxes, medicare, or social security because they are undocumented. We need to increase the inflow of legal immigrants so we can benefit from them paying taxes, SS, medicare, etc. Secure the border first, increase legal immigartion second, grandfather or deport those already here third.

    June 24, 2013 03:11 am at 3:11 am |
  7. Cyprustree

    This is one area where I am in full agreement with the Republicans; we cannot grant amnesty to millions of illegals without first securing the border. We've been down that road before and don't need to make the same mistakes over again. I applaud this man for taking a stand.

    June 24, 2013 03:21 am at 3:21 am |
  8. Josh

    I Stand with Rand Paul! I am tired of Lame Stream Media not reporting on real issues or if they do they sugar coat the subject to sound not so bad! Our Government is Full of Terrorist and War Criminals and it is time all of us that Call Ourselves American Citizen who want our Freedom and Liberties! If you want to really know the truth about what is really happening in Our America I encourage you to go to Infowars Alex Jones FB and site! He doesn't sugar coat anything and only reports on True Facts! There is Tyranny going on Within our Government and if We The People don't standup For the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that our Founding Fathers gave Us the People then Our Founding Fathers might as Well FOUGHT FOR NOTHING! STOP BEING GOVERNMENT SLAVES and Become FREE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

    June 24, 2013 03:31 am at 3:31 am |
  9. Karen

    It is not a "non-white" issue. There are plenty of illegal Asians, illegal Irish, illegal Canadians, illegal Russians et al. The issue is: are we a sovereign nation? Are there such things as sovereign nations?

    East to figure out on the micro view: people lock the front door of their house. Why? Because they want to protect their family and protect their stuff.

    So – it is the same on the bigger scale. We are a sovereign nation. And we must lock out front door. When all nations unlock their doors then we can think about doing the same.

    But – the United States is perceived as a "rich-white-person's house," so the poor from other "houses" around the world want to come in and get stuff. I would do the same if I were the, But I am not them.

    So we must lock the front door so when this nation is all black and brown and Asian, they will have sovereignty as darker skinned Americans.

    June 24, 2013 03:53 am at 3:53 am |
  10. TomNPitt

    This Congress can't agree what toilet paper to use in the lobby. Paul represents the third rail of a broken system. What he's saying is, as long as his supporters have a voice in politics – nothing will ever go forward.

    June 24, 2013 04:01 am at 4:01 am |
  11. joe

    Steven, not against immigration, just uncontrolled illegal immigration. We are all sick and tired of the Left ramming legislation down our throats when not only do they lie to us about it, but most of them are themselves clueless as to the contents.

    This nothing but the liberals wanting more guaranteed votes, votescwhich history shows they will stop at nothing to get.

    June 24, 2013 04:36 am at 4:36 am |
  12. dpsoxfan

    “I don't trust this administration or a Republican administration to really make a valid judgment."

    And I don't trust CONGRESS to make that decision!!

    President Obama has done more to increase border security than any President in recent history. Regarding the issue of immigration–please people–do we forget how our country was built?! People from Mexico are this generation's Irish, Germans, Italians and so on. We need to stop treating these people like criminals and make a path toward citizenship. Those already here have already put in more hard work to help some Americans grow very wealthy-more hard work than many Americans.

    June 24, 2013 04:53 am at 4:53 am |
  13. dtbaker

    A truth teller – just like his father. One might find a few holes, but he is more truthful than most of those horse.

    June 24, 2013 05:34 am at 5:34 am |
  14. Ethan

    Clearly people like Steven down there don't understand that you don't have to be a citizen to pay taxes. And clearly he doesnt understand how our economy works, either, seeing as how he thinks the sudden addition of another 12 million people in our country is a good thing. Im already paying taxes to support a large number of these illegals who are receiving benefits from the government (simply because they have stopped caring who gets them). Why should we make it easier for them to receivemore government handouts. A.k.a. hard working american taxpayer dollars

    June 24, 2013 05:44 am at 5:44 am |
  15. joe biglow

    we got enough problems and sure don't need another 20 million

    June 24, 2013 05:49 am at 5:49 am |
  16. Bob

    Steve, few are more pro-immigration than I am, for some of the reasons you list. But our current system of severely limiting legal immigration and encouraging illegal immigration is a cruel joke. On both us and theIimmigrants.

    June 24, 2013 05:50 am at 5:50 am |
  17. Elizabeth Morin

    "Let's wait until the border is secure" sayeth the corporations who don't want immigration reform that holds them accountable for hiring illegals.

    June 24, 2013 05:50 am at 5:50 am |
  18. Bob

    Steven, few are more pro-immigration than I am and for some of the same reasons you list. But our current system of severely limiting legal immigration and rewarding illegal immigration is a cruel joke. This bill is more of the same.

    June 24, 2013 05:54 am at 5:54 am |
  19. mike Lake Orion Michigan

    The bill is useless as it stands. There is no way Janet Napolitano should be given the authority to determine whether the border is secure. Neither her or Obama wants to secure the border. It's all about Political votes!

    June 24, 2013 05:55 am at 5:55 am |
  20. molon

    use IRS form 211 to turn in companies employing illegals and earn up to $10,000,000
    use the system friends

    June 24, 2013 05:55 am at 5:55 am |
  21. dcobranchi

    Last time I checked the Constitution, a bill only needs 51 votes to pass. Perhaps it would benefit the country if news organizations pointed out that it needs 60 votes to overcome a Republican filibuster.

    June 24, 2013 06:05 am at 6:05 am |
  22. John Rush

    Steven, although you have a point, if those people are operating businesses there most likely legal residents. Concerning illegals, so you feel its acceptable to allow them citizenship even though they have broken at least one law, and many have broken several laws ( fake id's, illegally running a business, etc. ). The problem is there are no adults in the room, all those pushing for a pathway to citizenship should be fired. We are teaching the nation that if you break the law you will be rewarded, it's all about setting high standards and hold people accountable. Look at our representatives who consistently break the law, and it's these people we trust to do the right thing ? We should all remember it's not about us, it's about future generations who we are responsible to ensure their rights to an America that our predecessors fought and gave their lives. We need to start by getting rid of all lawyers in politics, let's vote in mom's with kids and provide day care, blue collar workers with some legal secretary's , that would make this nation great again. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Lyndsey Graham and many others are not good Americans and we should deport them to Mexico. And for the record the bill passed 6 years ago that mandated the border fence be built, it's already a law, where is the fence ?

    June 24, 2013 06:05 am at 6:05 am |
  23. aCriticalEye

    Rand Paul is just another Tea Nut that has to go in 2014. I cant have my way so I'm taking my ball and going home.
    That man is absolutely worthless.

    June 24, 2013 06:07 am at 6:07 am |
  24. John Rush

    We shouldn't cash in our principles , values, and sell our souls just because it will make the economy a little better, that's what politicians do, and we can see were that's getting us !

    June 24, 2013 06:11 am at 6:11 am |
  25. The Other Dale

    Meet the male Sarah Palin.

    So once again Rand has failed and, once again, he plans to throw a tantrum. And, once again, Kentucky apologizes for voting for this guy. It's not so much that he's a loser, but that he's taking it out on the American public and making us all lose as well.

    And Republicans seriously think this guy has a chance for the White House in 2016?

    June 24, 2013 06:17 am at 6:17 am |
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