With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill
June 23rd, 2013
10:50 AM ET
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With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill

(CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul says he’ll vote “no” on the Senate’s bipartisan immigration reform bill, since it doesn’t include his amendment that would grant Congress power to determine whether the U.S. southern border is secure,

The Kentucky Republican had previously been open to supporting the measure, which includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that’s contingent on bolstering border security. Paul introduced an amendment that would have required Congress to vote on whether the border was properly secure, but it failed to gain approval this week.

Without that inclusion, Paul said definitively on CNN’s “State of the Union” he would be a “no” vote.

“Without some congressional authority and without border security first, I can't support the final bill,” Paul told chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

Supporters of the comprehensive immigration reform bill need 60 votes to gain passage in the Senate, but hope a larger majority will help propel the measure in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives, where its prospects appear dim. With that goal in mind, an amendment was introduced this week that vastly ramps up resources along the southern border, including 700 miles of new fence.

But Paul said Sunday that provision wasn’t sufficient, saying throwing dollars at border security programs wasn’t any guarantee the problem would be fixed.

“We've thrown a lot of money at a lot of problems in our country,” Paul said. “To me, what really tells me that they're serious would be letting Congress vote on whether the border's secure. If the people in the country want to be assured that we will not get another 10 million people to come here illegally over the next decade, they have to believe they get a vote through their Congress.”

Predicting the measure would pass the Senate but fail in the House, Paul said he didn’t trust the White House to accurately assess whether or not full security had been achieved on the border.

“I don't trust this administration or a Republican administration to really make a valid judgment,” he said. “I want Congress and the people to have the right to decide whether the border's secure.”

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  1. picnick

    Good job, Rand.

    This immigration mess must have border security and enforcement of existing laws as top priority and Congress must have oversight as to what the definition and rubric for judging border security will be.

    Once again you have shown deep wisdom.

    Rand Paul 2016.

    June 23, 2013 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  2. lottie

    rand paul is an idiot and the GOP a dinosaur party. They don't want big government but want to spend billions more on the boarder. dah

    June 23, 2013 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  3. jas

    Sorry Randy, the security of the boarder, rightly or wrongly, is the purview of the executive branch.

    June 23, 2013 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm |
  4. Mel Stricker

    The answer is easy. Anytime Rand Paul runs for anything vote for the other person. This man has an agenda and no matter who it may hurt he is going to stick to it.

    That agenda, 2016.. The man is a joke and the only thing he has forgotten is his clown suit.

    June 23, 2013 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  5. TLORop

    "SMALL GOVERNMENT" except for Congress.

    Seriously has Rand Paul ever voter for anything other than tax cuts?

    June 23, 2013 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  6. jdbost

    “I don't trust this administration or a Republican administration to really make a valid judgment,” he said. “I want Congress and the people to have the right to decide whether the border's secure.”

    Congress?? Valid judgement??

    Now that's funny!

    June 23, 2013 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  7. Joe

    I agree. I am not even Republican.

    We KNOW border security is a problem. If it wasn't, this bill would not even exist. So why would we not want to address the source of the problem? This seems insane to me. This is like hiring a plumber to rid your basement of floodwater but refusing to patch up any cracks/ leaks.

    I support Paul on this one. I rather not see Illegal immigrants be made legal (ahead of law abiding immigrants still waiting) but if it will address the border issue then its a compromise that is good for both sides. Why anyone would vote down the only thing that actually addresses the source of teh problem is beyond me.

    June 23, 2013 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  8. Tharp

    A Man to Rand Paul, We don't need another bill we just need to enforce the current bill, no amnesty please. We have been and done before.

    June 23, 2013 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  9. BCasero

    Can we lock Rand Paul and Ted Cruz in a small, sound proof room together and they can take turns saying stupid things to each other without bothering the rest of us?

    June 23, 2013 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  10. Paul

    Rand Paul the gift that keeps on giving to the Democrats.

    June 23, 2013 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
  11. Mariana

    without Congressional oversight, how long will it take Obama to decide he will ignore the requirement for the 'surge' in border security and instruct the DOJ to prosecute anyone who tries to enforce it? Not a nanosecond. He has probably already done so. Senator Paul is merely making sure that Obama will not do what he has been doing up to now: ignoring any laws he does not like.

    June 23, 2013 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  12. SPW

    You've been noted as a possible person to vote for in the 2016 election, Rand

    Hopefully you can revisit some of the issues you've talked about and clarify some of the outlandish answers you've given on a few

    June 23, 2013 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  13. Doug

    Rand Paul and the other Tea Party "Libertarians" cater to the lowest form of stupid. Which unfortunately like to watch Infowars, and Glen Beck to get their news. He wants congress to be able to determine if the border is secure? THEY ALREADY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. And its not like Congress or the Senate can determine anything anymore.

    June 23, 2013 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  14. don in albuquerque

    We have to have insane people in office or it wouldn't be congress. Aqua Buddha is just taking Bachman's place. Another great John Adams quote-"I have come to the conclusion that one useless man in a disgrace, two become a law firm, and three or more become congress. And by God I have had this congress!"

    June 23, 2013 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  15. picnick

    Rand Paul has once again shown a lot of wisdom.

    June 23, 2013 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  16. scootfl78

    Well there's a shocker...racist Rand Paul is against reform when it comes to immigration. He'd rather put up an electric fence and kill everybody who isn't white.

    June 23, 2013 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  17. rs

    Let's be honest, folks. The southern border which today has the greatest ever number of Border Patrol agents, the greatest mileage of fencing and to date record arrests and deportations. Is it secure? The most at any time in history. Was it EVER going to be secure enough for the GOP to get their vote? Never.

    Simple truth: The GOP will NEVER support immigration reform- their super-radical base will never support it, even when the CBO shows it will actually save money. The GOP suicide mission continues.

    June 23, 2013 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm |
  18. GBM

    Finally, a fresh breeze of sanity ! Illegal immigrants are just as much slaves as Africans were in the Southern plantations. National security is the Fedral Governments primary job and it has failed miserably for decades.

    June 23, 2013 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm |
  19. Alan M

    He does not trust any administration to make sure the border is secure but he trusts congress, the bastion of special interests and party politics? Really? And the Tea Party rejoices. What a joke.

    June 23, 2013 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  20. Diane

    He just like's to tell the truth and you dem's can't handle the truth and he tells it to where all people can understand it

    June 23, 2013 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  21. jason

    Why is this the only country in the world without a secure border? And when we ask for one we are racist. Really? If you cross the border into Mexico from Guatemala, they put you in jail. They don't give you welfare, food stamps, free health care, etc...We are broke, we can't continue to support every poor person in the world of the backs of the few people who still actually work in this country. The new american dream, come to america and get on every welfare program you can. Let people who work support you. It's pathetic and this once great nation will crumble soon

    June 23, 2013 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  22. RRJ25

    I think he's referring to the boarder between the confederate states and the union states. In hindsight, maybe we should have let them win. Then Rand Paul and his hardline Tea Party could roll back the clock to the 1850s where true conservatives want to keep it.

    June 23, 2013 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  23. mikeretired

    As bad as the US needs reform and a firm policy in place these people will do anything to defeat it. I would leave nothing for this congress to vote or confirm.

    June 23, 2013 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  24. sammy750

    Other Republicans will do the same as Paul, as Jim De MInt and other conservatives funding organizations are threatening the Republicans will loss of funding if they vote for the Immigration Bill. The right wing of the Republicans do NOT want any immigration bill to be passed. This is just the latest on the extreme views that pass through the Republicans camp. They really don't know what they want. With the extreme Tea Party and then De Mint, who are really the TERRORIST of this nation continue to try to destroy this nation. At some point voters will wake up to the fact that the Republicans are the real TERRORIST.

    June 23, 2013 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
  25. robert

    The term amnesty does not appear in the bill. But of the synonyms for amnesty (forgive, remit, condone, forgive, excuse), forgiveness is mentioned; on page 495.
    “Loan forgiveness: The Director may expend funds from the Account for
    purposes of loan forgiveness or repayment of student loans which led to a low-income student obtaining a degree in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, or other high demand fields.”

    I am troubled that a criminal would be forgiven for a student loan when such forgiveness will not be extended to students who came here legally or who were born here.

    June 23, 2013 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
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