Rand Paul bestiality comment 'sarcasm,' office says
June 27th, 2013
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Rand Paul bestiality comment 'sarcasm,' office says

(CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul's criticism of Wednesday's same-sex marriage ruling, which included a rhetorical question about bestiality eventually being made legal, was sarcasm, the Kentucky Republican's office says.

Speaking to conservative radio host Glenn Beck, Paul delved into the question of whether or not lawmakers should imbue legislation with their own morals. Beck set up the statement by wondering whether the court's ruling – which found a key provision of the federal Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional – could logically lead to polygamy becoming legal.

"If you change one variable – man and a woman – to a man and a man and a woman and a woman, you cannot tell me then that you can't logically change the other variable," Beck said. "One man, three women. One woman, four men. Who are you to say that if I am a devout Muslim and I come over here and I have three wives, who are you to say if I am an American citizen that I can't have multiple marriages?"

Paul, a potential 2016 presidential candidate whose supporters include a large number of libertarian-leaning conservatives, said Beck was getting at a larger question of whether laws can include moral designations.

"This is a conundrum, and it gets back to what you were saying …whether or not churches should decide this," Paul said. "And it is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans?"

That remark, his office said, wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

"Sarcasm sometimes doesn't translate adequately from radio conversation," his communications director Moira Bagley said. "Sen. Paul did not suggest that striking down DOMA could lead to unusual marriage arrangements. What he was discussing was that having the state recognize marriage without definition could lead to marriages with no basis in reality."

Later in the interview, Paul stressed the economic importance of stable marriages for children.

"I also see that economically, if you don't look at it with any moral periscope, and you say, 'What is it that is the leading cause of poverty in our country?' It's having kids without marriage," Paul said. "That stability of the marriage unit is enormous, and we should not say we're punting on it and marriage can be anything."

Later, in an interview with ABC News, Paul said he thought the Supreme Court ruling on DOMA was appropriate and said the issue should be one left to the states.

As for the growing divide among Republicans on same-sex marriage, Paul said "the party is going to have to agree to disagree on some of these issues."

CNN's Kevin Liptak and Ashley Killough contributed to this report.

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  1. stu

    so is Paul a social conservative, a libertarian-leaning republican, or just a guy pandering to the tea party for votes? No libertarian I know wants the government legislating morality.

    June 27, 2013 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  2. mfstout

    Rand, the least you could do after making such a horrific statement is to have the guts to admit you were serious. The joke comment is just that...a joke. Now you're a coward twice.

    June 27, 2013 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  3. andrew

    It is said " one becomes what one condemns".. It has always seemed to me that there was a side to this Rand Paul that just didn't seem to click..now i know why.. He is a QUEEN!! Paul is GAY!! He condemns it so vehemently yet...look at him...the way he looks, speaks, mannerisms, it's all so forced and manipulated...the dude is totally gay. It all fits now...

    June 27, 2013 03:30 pm at 3:30 pm |
  4. joseph

    Oh right so he wasnt using the stupid analogy that simple minded conservatives use ALL THE TIME? Simple minded man for simple minded people.

    June 27, 2013 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  5. steve-0

    I don't really care about gay marriage but legal polygamy is the next frontier and it will happen.

    June 27, 2013 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  6. clubschadenfreude

    Rand Paul has made a poor remark into a lie by attempting to claim it was "sarcasm". That's the excuse of a poor little bully: "I was just joking." when caught being a twit. I do wonder, is Mr. Paul a Christian? I seem to recall that the Christians god hates lies and liars. Intentionally telling a lie is a rather stark revelation that Mr. Paul doesn't believe in what he claims to. He respect his god and religion no more than I do, an atheist.

    June 27, 2013 03:33 pm at 3:33 pm |
  7. Bob

    First, marriage in this country is a LEGAL definition and has nothing to do with religion. Atheists can get married. Conversely, if you get married in a church by the Pope himself, you still can't file jointly if you don't have a government-issued marriage license. Secondly, polygamy isn't practical in a legal sense. Suppose five people get married and one person wants out. How do you divide up property? How about child visitation rights? A marriage assumes two equal partners and if you allow for a majority group and a minority group within a marriage, it becomes unworkable and unhealthy. We've seen that in groups that illegally practice polygamy. It's usually one guy with a harem and one or more of the women end up abused slaves.

    June 27, 2013 03:34 pm at 3:34 pm |
  8. NateFromIndiana

    In fairness, I concede that it's possible that Rand Paul was cluelessly oblivious during each of the previous instances in which a social conservative was buried in protests after trying to play the "slippery slope to beastiality" card. I'm not sure it's much of an excuse, but the scenario isn't completely far-fetched.

    June 27, 2013 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  9. Wyatt

    I wish you were a LIberatarian Rand, like your dad. Then you wouldn't give a flying fart about the issue.

    June 27, 2013 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  10. Unstable_Craton

    I grew up near Glenn Becks home and it is a well known that he has a fetish for sheep. The feed stores could not keep knee high boots or Velcro gloves while he was living in the area. everyone would pronounce his name "Gllllllllenn" mimicking the sound of sheep. his records been sealed to avoid the embarrassment, but i know a guy who has access.

    June 27, 2013 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  11. Thomas

    What have Mett's rich sons done to MA/country that qualify them to run a president?


    All five of them fought in the surge in Iraq , personally took and held Fallujah , found Saddam Hussein's spider hole and pulled him out .

    Then went to Afghanistan and cleaned up all the bad guys in Helmand province .

    June 27, 2013 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  12. Dan

    Isn't it ironic that Beck, the Mormon, is railing against polygamy?

    June 27, 2013 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  13. SkepticalOne

    Somebody has to feed the comedy shows material with crazy eyes Bachmann retiring. This guy is a real gem in the GOP crown.

    June 27, 2013 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  14. Randy Paul

    Hey Rand, you want to marry the front end of the donkey so you'll be complete, go for it.

    June 27, 2013 03:42 pm at 3:42 pm |
  15. Rosslaw

    Yessiree, definitely the brains of the outfit. Now, you are going to run as the republican presidential candidate, right? I mean, you promised. Leno and company are already salivating.

    June 27, 2013 03:42 pm at 3:42 pm |
  16. Dave Long

    Unsure about how well sarcasm translates from any conservative mouth, or even humor in general, just speak to the issues in earnest tones and accept whatever the populace decides.

    June 27, 2013 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |
  17. Anti-Idiocracy

    Just sayin', all of you who think it wouldn't come to such extremes, are acting just like the founding fathers. hundreds, even thousands of years from now, you don't know how it will be interpreted. Stop being arrogant in what you think you know.

    June 27, 2013 03:45 pm at 3:45 pm |
  18. Dominican mama 4 Obama


    Dominican mama......It's so ridiculous!
    It is indeed ridiculous Denise, and I think you've got the right tack: humor.
    The ignorance that the Best of the Rest spews does a huge disservice to what used to be the Republican Party. But that's ALL they've got. Well that and hate.
    Refusing to "engage" in such ignorance by dissecting it's meaning, or possible meanings is the only way to deal with the Rand Pauls of the world.
    We can have a discussion on the Platos, the Socrates, the Frosts of the world but not the freakin Rand Pauls.
    Sarcarsm shmarcasm. Can he even spell it do you think?

    June 27, 2013 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  19. regenesis0

    "Don't mention bestiality and gays in the same sentence." Why is this simple rule of thumb so hard for Republicans to follow?

    They think the debate isn't over and hope to score points by restricting or refusing to recognize gay marriage on the state level. Do you think they'll re-enact or start enforcing sodomy laws still on the books?

    June 27, 2013 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  20. OTR

    Assuming that our technology continues to advance, and that it can advance to the point of interstellar travel, then the question of inter-species marriage will eventually become relevant. All we need to do is find a species that has a sufficient level of intellect that they can provide legal consent.

    June 27, 2013 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  21. Ah. I see...

    Thanks Mr. Paul for parading your GOP-unified-ignorance some more. Poverty has nothing to do with the family unit. Wage disparity and stratification is the problem...but see then you'd be blaming the folks who line your sticky pockets. If minimum wage was the same today relative to cost of living as it was when your daddy was squirting you out, everything would be just fine. But it isn't, and no one but the private sector is to blame. To try and blame gay love for our economic woes today would be like saying the Great Depression was the fault of the blacks. Learn something you disingenuos meatbags!

    June 27, 2013 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  22. Damia Savon

    @Edwin. You would have a point if these arguments had not be made against interracial dating and marriage. The end of America was going to come. It was going to lead to people marrying animals (or they did marry animals because white Southerners view(ed) black as animals). The sky was going to fall. Oops.

    The social implications are.. none. Christians, I guess I should say nutjob Christians, hate rulings like this because they really want a theocratic dictatorship like the Taliban. They just do not want to admit it.

    They are obsessed with bestiality because their morals are in the gutter. Here is typical conservative Christian thinking: hubby wants to leave his wife and marry another woman. Divorce will make him look bad to his Church. Therefore hubby murders wife and tries to make it look like a black man did it. Affairs are bad, divorce is worse but murder is o.k.

    June 27, 2013 03:50 pm at 3:50 pm |
  23. Greg in Arkansas

    Guess he would't have a problem getting married to his pet sheep.....as long as it wasn't a male sheep.....that would be wrong and make him gay...

    June 27, 2013 03:52 pm at 3:52 pm |
  24. spence

    NAMBLA has to be encouraged by the ruling. Progress you know.

    June 27, 2013 03:52 pm at 3:52 pm |
  25. adibese

    One question... is lawful Polygamy that big of a deal? Marriage between humans and of legal age make sense.

    June 27, 2013 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
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