After fortieth vote to gut Obamacare, lawmakers head home
(CNN) – As their final act before leaving for their August break, lawmakers in the House of Representatives voted Friday to disallow the Internal Revenue Service from implementing the Affordable Care Act – their fortieth attempt to repeal or gut the law known as Obamacare.
The measure sponsored by Rep. Tom Price of Georgia passed 232-185, though like all other attempts by the GOP-led House to end the health care law, it's expected to go nowhere in the Democrat-controlled Senate.
The IRS, to the chagrin of many Republicans already resentful of the tax agency, has been tasked with implementing many of Obamacare's key features, including the individual mandate to obtain health insurance. GOP skepticism of the Obamacare rollout was fueled by revelations the IRS was targeting conservative groups applying for tax exempt status for extra scrutiny.
"This is not an organization, the IRS, that the American people have any confidence or trust in at this point," Price said after Friday's vote. "That trust is going to have to be rebuilt. But until it is rebuilt, the last thing that we want is the Internal Revenue Service, the last thing the American people want, is the Internal Revenue Service being able to implement and enforce Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act."
Democrats have mocked Republicans attempts to repeal Obamacare as useless, given the balance of power in the Senate and the fact Obama himself still sits in the White House.
Speaking at a press conference Friday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said her GOP colleagues would have trouble explaining themselves to voters during the August recess.
"How do you explain to the American people that today Congress will go into an August recess and after more than six months in this Congress, this Republican Congress, we still have no jobs bill, we have no budget bill and we have the threat of shutting down government and not raising the debt ceiling without repealing the Affordable Care Act," Pelosi said.
"This was a do-nothing Congress and now it has gone to something worse. It's an aimless Congress that is falling into chaos; it's a make-matters-worse Congress. We should not leave until we address the challenges that we face," she continued.
CNN's Deirdre Walsh and Kevin Liptak contributed to this report.
Its already happening Florida saying that their crooked exchanges will cost people more but CA and NY saying it will cost less. how can that be?
Fair is Fair
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Fair is Fair
Aerin
Hands Off My ObamaCare!!!
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Why? How much did you pay for it?
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I don't know how much they pay, but I pay for my health insurance and my future Medicare in every single paycheck. Anything that keeps those costs contained and provides better access is good for me, and its good for America. But, you haven't figured that out yet obviously.
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And when you're paying lots and lots more for your health insurance and your future Medicare is a shell of what it once was, remamber whose idea it was to drain the swamp. Just stay tuned.
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and the converse. When Medicare is solvent and costs have dropped and the country isn't bankrupt, remember and don't continue lying about it!
Obamacare is so great that the congress just exempted itself from participation. But the rest of us are stuck with it.
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How much is our safety and sovereignty worth? Do you expect the USA to be the only country on the planet that does not enforce and defend its borders? Is the the PRIME responsibility of the federal government? The cost is whatever it takes. All of that cost are the FIRST dollars that this country spends with other money being spent on lesser priorities. Besides, this cost is simply the money that the federal government has refused to spend for the last 4,5,10 decades. It is now time for the federal government to actually start doing its job, fulfilling their oath of office to protect and defend this country. (instead of suing and attacking others that have taken up the duty that they have refused to perform!)
How long? Never, if we refuse to even get started doing it. It will get done faster if the Democrats and liberals start putting their country's sovereignty over their leftist political agenda.
This is not rocket science. The problem is the leftists in this country that would rather see it destroyed than its laws enforced.
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Psst. You got so caught up in your rant that you forgot to say what your solution actually is.
It costs a lot to house a prisoner for a year. It may take that long to arrange deportation to their country of origin. It's the height of ignorance to assume that 11 million people snuck out of Mexico in the dark of the night. The cost to house a prisoner for a year around here is roughly $35,000 per year. That allows for the cost of construction and manning of facilities.
Now multiply that $35k times one million people for the first year. If we round up another million the second year, the first will still be hanging around because the case backlog will be staggering because we forgot to expand the courts and hire people to work the cases. For the second year the cost will $35k times two million. Heavens knows what the courts would cost, hundreds of millions, if not tens of billions.
Now we send them home. We may have to put a lot of them on an airplane to Central and South America. The deportee may or may not need an escort, who would have to fly back after an overnight stay. Let's call a flight to Guatemala with escort costs $5000. Remember, we have to transport the inmate from the prison to an airport, too. Now multiply that by the number of prisoners.
I would guesstimate that the final overall cost will come in at around half a trillion to a trillion dollars before you get them all rounded up twenty years from now.
emskadittle
Its already happening Florida saying that their crooked exchanges will cost people more but CA and NY saying it will cost less. how can that be?
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Florida is not participating, while CA and NY are.
A 5 week vacation and health insurance for life..... Yet they are working overtime so stop the rest of us from having health care...
This Congress will go down in history as the WORST CONGRESS EVER.
I just want to take this time to send a special Thank you to President Obama!! Thank you Mr. President for running for office. Since you burst on the scene the racists have been frothing at the mouth, they have attacked you and anyone that supports you daily. Before you ran, they had succeeded in making some believe that racism was dead and gone. But those same people can't think that now. The racists have attacked you, your wife, your children, your mother-in-law, and even your deceased mother. No one can ignore this problem anymore and they can't pretend they aren't anymore. This problem is now front and center, exactly where it should be.
Enjoy your birthday Mr. President and as always, stay safe.
if the numb skulls in the house would put the same energy for jobs and the economy what a wonderful place this would be
So much for the House doing something productive.
"The problem is the leftists in this country that would rather see it destroyed than its laws enforced."
If you consider a THIRTEEN YEAR process that includes paying all sorts of fines and back taxes to be "amnesty" and
believe that allowing people to become citizens after however long they've already been here contributing to the economy, likely working a job, paying taxes, etc., plus ANOTHER THIRTEEN YEARS is the "destruction of our country" and
believe that requiring DOUBLE the number of border patrol agents, even more technology and a $3.2B fence along the border with Mexico is insufficient "security" assurance to allow reform to contain a pathway to citizenship
if you believe all that, then none of what you say you're concerned about is what you're really concerned about and what is REALLY underlying and motivating your tantrum and opposition to moving forward with immigration reform. It's not.
Brass tacks.
I fully support nationionalized healthcare in the U.S., however as a medical student I do have some concerns. I will graduate with ~$200,000 of debt next year and can't help but worry that decreasing compensation for doctors will impact my ability to pay back my loans. Doctors in other countries have lower salaries than in the U.S., but their medical education is subsidized by the government so they do not have the overwelming debt that most medical graduates face here. Either way, providing everyone with health insurance will save money in the longrun, as more people will receive preventative care and utilize a PCP rather than the more costly EMS.
emskadittle
Its already happening Florida saying that their crooked exchanges will cost people more but CA and NY saying it will cost less. how can that be?
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It's happening because governor skeletor medicare thief and his merry band of rethug lawmakers passed legislation that allows insurers in increase the premium on any policies written after the 2010 passage of the ACA, and they did it FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF MAKING PEOPLE HATE "OBAMACARE"! However, there won't be any exchanges available for Floridians because those same thugs have determined that "Obamacare" won't even be enacted in Florida! Shame on them for their hatred of anyone who isn't a wealthy white x-tian rethuglican male!
No Amnesty For Illegals! Do not change the law for votes! Do not condone the actions of those who do not respect the law. Enforce the law. Do not selectively enforce the law. If you choose selective enforcement – DO NOT ENFORCE THE INCOME TAX LAW – I do not like the Income Tax – I do not want you to enforce it – I am sure I am not alone.
If you enforce one law – you should enforce all laws...
Once again FL is playing dirty pool..
It is now a law, follow it.
You missed the point.........they voted to exempt themselves from ObamaCare........as usual.
AZMD2B
I fully support nationionalized healthcare in the U.S., however as a medical student I do have some concerns. I will graduate with ~$200,000 of debt next year and can't help but worry that decreasing compensation for doctors will impact my ability to pay back my loans. Doctors in other countries have lower salaries than in the U.S., but their medical education is subsidized by the government so they do not have the overwelming debt that most medical graduates face here. Either way, providing everyone with health insurance will save money in the longrun, as more people will receive preventative care and utilize a PCP rather than the more costly EMS.
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AZMD2B, you my dear, are the poster child for the need for single payer and a national medical corps. IMO, the Fed should offer to pay off your student loans in exchange for you working as a GP for 5 years at a government-sponsored medical facility where you earn $75k – $100k the first year with a small step increase every year. At the end of the 5-year period you're free to go about your happy way, or to continue your education in order to become a specialist, with the Fed picking up the tab in exchange for another 5-year's service, and an additional step increase every year. Everybody wins – Americans get doctors who are in it for the right reason (I once fired a dentist because she told me she became a dentist to make money, and if my needs as a patient aren't my doctor's/dentist's first priority, then I want no part of them) and you can further your education without worrying about the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of student loans hanging around your neck like a dead albatross, which would take a huge weight off your mind while you're helping your patients!
FOURTY TIMES. (lets repeat that) FOURT TIMES.
But how many times did they fight for creating the jobs they campaigned on 3 years ago?
But hey, they raised a heckuva fight against affordable health care, gays, women and their rights, minorities, the rights of corporations, Benghazi, etc etc etc...
bang up job there. keep those congressional approval ratings plummeting...
YOU voted for these clowns America. YOU voted for them... smh.
Rick McDaniel
You missed the point.........they voted to exempt themselves from ObamaCare........as usual.
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Of course they did, because only the highest-tier of the four "Obamacare" plans even comes close to matching their taxpayer-funded cadillac medical plans, and they'd still be "marrying down". But you're right – EVERYBODY should have the same plan that congress gets!
Thanks for all your help House [R]s. You've done so much for us on the 'jobs' side, the 'economy' side, the 'environmental' side, etc......NOT!!!
Instead, we get multiple 'message' bills that have no practical effect on ANYTHING. And what's the message? The messeage is: we [R] politicians are dumber than a bag of hammers, but we don't care because our elctorate is dumber than an empty bag of hammers.
23 bills passed in 7 months. I'd fire them if they worked for me. Lazy, lazy, lazy...
Obamacare has significant problems, but it also takes care of significant problems. I say go ahead and repeal it but also repeal all laws that force hospitals to take anyone who walks in the door. If the dead and dying were allowed to pile up outside the emergency room doors like cordwood instead of getting care they will never pay for, far fewer Americans would be running around without health insurance. Sure, some innocents would die, but why should hospitals be allowed to tax without representation to the tune of 30 percent by forcing those of us who do pay/have insurance to also pick up the bills of the irresponsible by piling their unpaid charges into the overhead? And why the heck are T'partiers not concerned about that HUGE taxation without representation issue?
This would be a good time to evacuate our embassies and drop a bunch of bombs on the Middle East.