September 12th, 2013
07:22 AM ET
10 years ago
Vladimir Putin's comments on American exceptionalism, Syria cause a fuss
(CNN) - If Vladimir Putin wanted to get Americans' attention, he seems to have done a pretty good job.
The Russian president's op-ed article arguing against military intervention in Syria, published on The New York Times' website late Wednesday, set off a flurry of reactions - some outraged, some impressed, and some just plain bemused.
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Ever notice that when a commie begins sounding like a compassionate conservative, how quickly the right wingnuts line up and drool like high school girls over a teen idol? Another example of whose side the GOP represents.
Basing on his comments, our commenting is silly–he does not know we are Ethnic-Oriented nation, so only we are a Greatest Nation on earth. How idiotic Russia to elect this face to tarnish its own image.
Ever met a Russian? I know several; there's a small but vital expat community where I live in San Diego. Let's just say - and I say this with affection - that if any group knows about feeling exceptional, it's Russians. As such, Putin's comments are kind of funny.
Meanwhile, the piece in toto basically endorses what he and Obama have apparently worked out, but we have to get through the usual Obama-bashing first (a global pastime, apparently).
You've got to take the comments from the source..A little runt from Russia with an inflated ego who goes shirtless and wrestles bears thinking he's macho..Remember posters if it weren't for Pres. Truman and our government Gen.Patton would have gone on to Moscow in WWII and kicked Russias ass and they'd be talking English and be governed by us today.It was our government interceding telling the greatest of generals to stand down or like I said before history would be definitly different today!!
This is what happens when you have a weak Leader like Obama.
I've been warning about Russia almost from the start of this latest Syrian conflict. The U.S. cannot do anything to Syria without the Russians getting involved. The United States has its' Israel. The Russians have their Syria.
Hey Pete, I realize that you probably get some of your info from Fox News, BUT, what do you think the million man, ready for bear Soviet Army would have said about Truman ordering American Troops to TAKE Moscow ? Did you forget that America was on the verge of fighting it's largest battle of WW II, OKINAWA ? Or that after Okinawa, Nimitz told Truman to expect one MILLION American Casualties ? Think before you post.
@Ed1,
So what happens? Snarky articles?
I think we'll survive. You worry too much.
"For some people, the tension between the two presidents has become a spectacle in its own right."
For the media perhaps. Me? I really don't care other than it's worth a laugh to see Putin reaching out to Americans with a bit of good old fashion Russian propaganda. One would think he had enough problems in Russia to cope with that he wouldn't be so eager to add America's problems to his future "to-do" list.
Clearly, there are negotiations going on behind the scenes, and Mr. Putin's op-ed piece is part of the public face of that activity. Would I expect an ally of the Syrian government to say anything different? No. Would I expect Mr. Putin to say anything different given the strained relationship between the U.S. and Russia (and the radical Rights' obvious pleasure wit Mr. Putin's actions)? No.
The cool thing is that the U.S. gets to bang the drum threatening retaliation; Syria gets rid of its chemical WMDs, and; Russia gets to play peacekeeper; the American people get their wish to avoid another Middle Eastern war.
Looks win/win to me.
Data Driven
Ever met a Russian?
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My daughter has several Russian clients, and she HATES it when they show up at her shop: They're rude, pushy and think the world revolves around them. I've had the displeasure of dealing with one when I was standing in line waiting to pay for my purchases at Macys. She barged to the front of the line and when those of us waiting for service advised her that the line was behind us, she launched into a profanity-filled tirade while making rude and threatening gestures. Security escorted her from the property.
ED1
This is what happens when you have a weak Leader like Obama.
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A simpleton response. Try asking Osama bin Laden how he feels about the President's "weak leadership", or Mr. Quadaffi perhaps.
From the full article on the front page: "#Putin diplomatically serves it to Pres. Obama in the last paragraph. Can't believe the #nytimes ran this," wrote Mary F. Mueller.
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Not sure who this mary f. Mueller person is, but if she thinks this is about President Obama, she really shouldn’t comment, much less vote. That sentiment has been expressed for at least 3 decades (that's about how long I've been paying attention to politics), and up until KBG pooty-poot became the new reichwing darling for sticking it to the guy they hate, anyone who made such a comment was immediately bashed and trashed by ms. mueller's ilk. Thanks ms. mueller and the rest of the reichwing haters for making the “librul’s” case that you would throw the nation under the bus for what you perceive makes "that one" look bad. Contrary to what the "librul media" (cnn included) tries to spin those of us with more than two brain cells to rub together see right through it and can make up our own minds.
Eh,
American Exceptionalisim? Now where did that term come from? It must mean working hard and being succesful. Boy that was lost in the shuffle. Now it is where is my benefits? The same place your job is.
The way republicans have been flip flopping, I am not even sure Fox News has been able to give them a clear domestic terrorist plan.
Ed1, this is what Putin said in a NYT Op-Ed today:
"Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan ‘you’re either with us or against us.’”
Yes, Putin was referring to Bush's famous line. In effect, Putin was comparing Obama to Bush.
I never knew the US had so many fair-weather patriots. I am sure Snowden would love to have them join him in Russia. To borrow a right-wing phrase from the 60s "...my country, love it or leave it."
yet another foreign policy disaster and failure for obama and hillary clinton. so this is what the famous russion reset button has gotten us? so this is what all that knee slapping post election flexibility has gotten us? the russians thinking they can insult us in editorials in our own newspapers. yeah, the russian reset is wondering successfull if success is defined as decimating the usa's power and prestige.
putin is really enjoying spitting all over obama and the usa right now. he knows we have weak and clueless leader in the white house. he is taking every advantage of it.
obama needs to reinstate our agreement with the eastern european countries for the missile defense shield that obama stupidly unilaterally cancelled. the russian bear must learn there is a price to pay for this.
The entire world is laughing at right wingnuts. Patriots my butt.
here's the fact everyones lies have come to haunt them
Hector Slagg wrote:
Eh, American Exceptionalisim? Now where did that term come from? It must mean working hard and being succesful.
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Actually, it is coded language. It's an altruistic sounding euphemism for "white supremacy." When you listen to serious conservatives speak of it, the two phrases are virtually interchangeable.