5 things you don't know about the shutdown standoff vote
September 20th, 2013
06:12 PM ET
7 years ago

5 things you don't know about the shutdown standoff vote

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The 230-189 vote in the Republican-led House of Representatives on Friday to fund the government, with the exception of Obamacare, triggered a not-so-welcome déjà vu march toward a possible government shutdown.

While the measure's passage was expected, here are five less-expected things we learned as a result:

1. Destroying Obamacare is more popular in the House than Speaker John Boehner.

The 230 votes for the bill were 10 more than Boehner received when running to retain his position in January.

2. The threat of a government shutdown didn't matter. Yet.

The House now has taken a much-publicized 42 votes to limit or stop Obamacare, but this was the first time an anti-Obamacare measure was glued to a must-pass funding measure. Even so, no Republican or Democrat changed their vote to avoid a shutdown showdown. The two Democrats who voted with Republicans, Reps. Jim Matheson, D-Utah, and Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-North Carolina, have repeatedly voted to repeal Obamacare.

3. The threat of more budget cuts did matter.

To one congressman. Rep. Scott Rigell, R-Virginia, was the only Republican to break ranks and vote against the House spending and anti-Obamacare measure. His office told CNN that he voted no because he wants future budget cuts rolled back. His Virginia Beach district is heavily dependent on military, especially Navy, funding.

4. The U.S. Copyright Office, for God's sake.

The anti-shutdown game (a passive-aggressive version of the blame game) entered its next phase on Friday: members of both parties bent over backward to praise programs they say shouldn't be harmed - the troops, National Park Service, etc. But this took an unexpectedly dramatic, and vaguely hipster, turn when Rep. Peter Visclosky, D-Indiana, stepped to the podium.

"What about the U.S. Copyright Office?" he boomed. "For God's sake, what is there to fight over in funding the Copyright Office?"

The U.S. Copyright Office is small enough so that when contacted, a supervisor counted the number of employees by hand from a list. (It is under 400.) The head of the agency, Register Maria Pallante, told CNN the shout-out was a wonderful surprise to an office where she says stress from past budget cuts and future uncertainty is palpable.

"The whole office is very grateful," she said.

5. Nancy Pelosi wants to limit government.

In her fiery remarks on the floor on Friday, the Democratic leader cast Republicans as bent on destroying government. But those closely listening heard an interesting nugget about her views, too. "We're not here to expand government but we're not here to eliminate government." Pelosi, D-California, said. "If the idea is to limit government, let's work together to do that."

This general view is not new for Pelosi. She has repeatedly said, "we don't want more government than we need." But putting out a call for limited government in a marquee debate highlights the conservative shift, even among Democrats, on the size of government.

soundoff (13 Responses)
  1. Marie MD

    All I, we, need to know is that the tea tards are our home grown terrorists. Wasn't it just last week that al quaida was talking about attacking the US's financial center?
    What is the difference between those terrorists who flew commercial planes into buildings Nd the tea tards in congress? Can't find one feakin' difference except these fools took an oath to serve and protect. The terrorists' oath is to destroy US!

    September 20, 2013 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  2. Name jk. Sfl. GOP conservatives,the garbage of America.

    Well if there are 2 or 3 GOP left in the house after the 2014 , consider yourself lucky GOP morons, to bad you didn't fight for jobs as much as you did to steal healthcare from 30 million Americans . The GOP is the garbage of America and proves it every day, if their working at the time, you lost the election and your healthcare bs won't save you in 2014 when you lose the house and are flushed down the toilet AGAIN!!!!!

    September 20, 2013 07:31 pm at 7:31 pm |
  3. Rick McDaniel

    I only need to know one thing.......nothing much is going to get done.

    September 20, 2013 08:04 pm at 8:04 pm |
  4. Tom

    "Let's limit government".


    September 20, 2013 09:07 pm at 9:07 pm |
  5. Biff

    If Nancy Pelosi wants to limit government then hell has surely frozen over. Are you kidding? Nancy doesn't know what she's talking about... and if by some chance she might by some slim chance actually know what she's talking about–she doesn't really mean it or she's lying. If her lips are moving, she's either spouting some incoherent rant, or telling another lie.

    September 20, 2013 09:40 pm at 9:40 pm |
  6. judy

    a more honest goverment would be good.

    September 21, 2013 12:21 am at 12:21 am |
  7. Woman In California

    After what happened with the shutdown a few years ago, I will never let the republicans do to me what they did the last time, I WAS FURIOUS but this time around, I expect nothing less than more of the same. Years ago, I would never believe that Congress would go so far as to threaten, disrespect and DEMAND that the POTUS "obey" or suffer the consequences but they did. These TP radicals are so hate filled when it comes to this president, they would actually see this country burn to the ground and us with it. They need to go for our survival. Them or us? The choice is quite clear for me.

    September 21, 2013 01:31 am at 1:31 am |
  8. jerry from missouri

    We dont want are need Obamacare or Obama, We have had enough lies and blame.

    September 21, 2013 01:49 am at 1:49 am |
  9. Thomas

    Destroying Obamacare is more popular in the House than Speaker John Boehner.

    John Boehner has been nothing but a panzee , a spineless leader with no vision .

    September 21, 2013 04:39 am at 4:39 am |
  10. don in albuquerque

    There is only ONE thing you need to know. The GOTP have demonstrated again and again that they are enemies of the people.

    September 21, 2013 08:47 am at 8:47 am |
  11. Alan S.

    Extremists have all but destroyed the GOP. Who is these Tea Party Lawmakers? They are the Representives of their Co-founders; BIG TOBACCO and the KOCH BROTHERS. These groups and individuals are Self-Serving and have zero interest in the General Welfare of the American People. All they care about is MONEY and eliminating any laws the can to increase profits. The Kock Bros. have been caught for major EPA Violation that were Criminal in Nature, the stole Oil from Native Americans, have been selling equipment to Iran and are responsible for a dramatic increase in Cancer rates around their Georgia Pacific Plant, yet they have just paid pennies in fines and never went to jail. Why? They have bought and paid for every Republican Lawmaker and paid out over 400 Million in the last election. Evil people and the GOP IS DEALING WITH THE DEVIL!

    September 21, 2013 09:25 am at 9:25 am |
  12. Mike Texoma

    The British love their single payer system. The Canadians love their single payer system. The Australians love their single payer system. Residents of Massachusetts love their health care system. Once it is implemented, Americans are going to love Obamacare And that is what scares Republicans the most. It is not lost on me that the television sets in all public areas of doctor's offices and hospitals are set on Fox News.

    September 21, 2013 10:56 am at 10:56 am |
  13. Evergreen

    Big government v. Small Government. How about Smart Government. Lets talk about a smarter way of doing things. How about some new IDEAS.

    September 21, 2013 11:00 am at 11:00 am |