McCain: Democrats should understand: ‘What goes around, comes around’
October 13th, 2013
02:16 PM ET
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McCain: Democrats should understand: ‘What goes around, comes around’

Washington (CNN) – Sen. John McCain said Sunday that Democrats need to be careful in their talks with Republicans over the government shutdown and debt ceiling - because if they take advantage of the GOP, it may come back to bite them.

"The Democrats, they better understand something: What goes around, comes around. And if they try to humiliate Republicans, things change in American politics - and I know what it's like to be in the majority and in the minority - and it won't be forgotten. Now is the time to be magnanimous and sit down and get this thing done," McCain said on CBS’s “Face The Nation.”

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Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, said Democrats and Republicans really aren’t that far apart in negotiations, at least in the Senate.

"Sen. (Mitch) McConnell and Sen. (Harry) Reid both understood the gravity of default and that we had to avoid it. While I don't want to get into details, the frameworks they each had, we're not that far apart," Schumer said.

"With the President, Senate Democrats, Senate Republicans, there's a will. We now have to find a way. We know the House won't find a way, so it all rests on our shoulders."

Schumer said ultimately, while most House Republicans may not support any kind of deal negotiated in the Senate, the thinking is that bipartisan support in the Senate will lead to moderate Republicans siding with Democrats in the House.

"Speaker (John) Boehner can't lead,” Schumer said. “But if the Senate leads, I believe he could follow our lead."

McCain added that he’d like to see one more person at the negotiating table.

“Maybe we need to get (Vice President) Joe Biden out of the Witness Protection Program, because he has good relationships,” he said.

Biden, who served nearly four decades in the Senate, played a key role in the negotiations that led to a fiscal cliff deal at the beginning of the year. He's staying at Camp David during the holiday weekend.

Filed under: Charles Schumer • Congress • Debt • Government Shutdown • John McCain
soundoff (26 Responses)
  1. oaksavanna

    Yes McCain should realize that if the republicans are able to extort the country into getting their way with this shutdown then the next time the democats are in control of the house they could do it too. Especially if the republicans are not punished at the voting booth in 2014 and 2016 for holding our democracy hostage.

    October 13, 2013 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  2. oaksavanna

    McCain should be talking sense into Boehner and getting him to hold a vote with a clean CR instead of going on talk shows telling everyone how the democats are 'humiliating' the republicans. The republicans don't need the democrats to do that, they are doign fine all by themselves

    October 13, 2013 02:25 pm at 2:25 pm |
  3. Tom

    So demanding that Democrats defund the ACA wasn't an attempt to humiliate Democrats? McCain and the Republicans should have thought about the "what goes around. comes around" angle before they began this shut down the government stunt. It's funny how now that the Republicans have lost, it's suddenly time to be magnanimous. I still don't see Republicans willing to give up anything in these so-called "negotiations." It's still all about the Democrats giving up something in order to re-open the government and avoid default. If Sen. McCain wants to be magnanimous, he could start by putting a plan on the table that was fair to both Democrats and Republicans.

    October 13, 2013 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  4. Tampa Tim

    Since John got slapped down by Cruz and the Koch organization for criticizing Ted, he has become insignificant.

    October 13, 2013 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  5. Thomas

    Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) on Friday accused Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) of supporting al Qaeda in Syria. Speaking at the Values Voter Summit ...

    The Democrats, they better understand something: What goes around, comes around. And if they try to humiliate Republicans, things change in American politics

    John , why do you let a guy like Louie Gohmert get away with such accusations ?
    With friends like that , who needs enemies !

    October 13, 2013 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |
  6. Anonymous

    Senator McCain, hate to tell you, but the Republicans are humiliating themselves. They have shown a weakness
    beyond comprehension. You, yourself, have called Cruz a whacko bird, and those who follow him are just
    like him. So, clean up your own backyard before you start issuing threats. It is a two way street, and some of
    us will "not forget" either. If you can't fight off a minority in your own party, you have lost the game.
    As for your desire to "sit down and get this thing done", tell us how you sit down and talk to a brick wall. I saw
    two teapartiers on various shows this morning, and they are still harping on repeal, defund and/or delay
    Obamacare. That doesn't sound like a willingness to "sit down" unless they get their way. Good luck with

    October 13, 2013 02:37 pm at 2:37 pm |
  7. Thomas

    Its sounds like the GOP dosn't need any help , there doing an outstanding job of humiliating themselves .


    October 13, 2013 02:38 pm at 2:38 pm |
  8. michael

    What goes around may come around, what a load of crap! The retardlicans in President Obama's first and since his re-election have obstructed, tabled, voted against, and filibustered every program, jobs bill, budget or authorization the president and the democrats have tried to pass! So, I think what coming around is, when the democrats get the House back retardlicans will pay for their arrogant, extremist, bias, incendiary, obstructionist behavior! They have hurt our recovery! If it weren't for the stimulus bill and the Presidents Executive actions this economy would still; be in the toilet, no thanks to the retardlicans and teatroll extortionist!

    October 13, 2013 03:10 pm at 3:10 pm |
  9. wendel

    He also made it clear that when they loose this dumb fight they will again be attacking health care in full force. So we will have to keep listening to these crazies for two more years. God help us in the next election. !

    October 13, 2013 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  10. remymarco

    Unbelievable gaul. The Republicans hold the country and now the world as economic hostages and the Democrats have to be careful because "what goes around comes around." Yes it does Senator and no one is going to forget the 5 years and counting of unparalled obstruction, stagnation and outright treason of the Repulicans in the House and in the Senate. Your party has fought tooth and nail to destroy this president and the polices he initiated to turn this country around. We are where we are because you party has done everything possible to destroy America. We the people, will not forget, not for a second.

    October 13, 2013 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  11. Tony in Maine

    Yeah John, maybe this is payback for what the Repos have been doing since Gingrich led the Revolt of the Tiny-Brained. Ever think of that?

    October 13, 2013 03:36 pm at 3:36 pm |
  12. Nieue

    Here goes mcshame again-trying to "play both sides to the middle". First of all-mccain-this is "what is coming around" now-for you & the repubs. All of your under- hand obstruction & not trying to compromise w/the President- has made him know that you all cannot be trusted. I was sick of him trying to appease you all anyway-& you all treated him like "dirt on the blind"- so don't whine now-WHINERS!

    October 13, 2013 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  13. Marry

    ""The Democrats, they better understand something: What goes around, comes around. And if they try to humiliate Republicans, things change in American politics..." Sais a RPUBLICAN???? They really got some this situation? Disgusting!

    October 13, 2013 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  14. DaveC

    Don't worry McCain, The Republicans in the congress and the senate are doing the embarrassing thing all by themselves.

    October 13, 2013 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |
  15. HenryMiller

    ‘What goes around, comes around’

    Most sensible thing McCain has said in years. Unfortunately, it's coming too late. When the Democrats passed Obamacare with dirty tricks and back-room deals, with not a single Republican vote, against the wishes of a majority of Americans, they sowed the seeds of what they're reaping now.

    And the "pain" of this two-bit "shutdown" is nothing compared to the pain of the economic collapse that letting go on forever insane government spending, including spending on Obamacare, will cause.

    October 13, 2013 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  16. Tony

    If Republicans did not try to humiliate Obama, by tying his health care law to bills funding the government and raising the debt ceiling, even though he ran on the health care law in last year's election and WON, maybe there would not have been an opportunity for Democrats to humiliate Republicans?

    October 13, 2013 03:46 pm at 3:46 pm |
  17. Phaerisee

    A lot of people are trying to extend the GOP an olive branch so they can save face gracefully. It is up to them to take it.

    October 13, 2013 03:57 pm at 3:57 pm |
  18. Name

    Ahhh...who is scared of big bad McCain. .go for the jugular dems!!!

    October 13, 2013 04:03 pm at 4:03 pm |
  19. the hippies were right

    Not a problem, republicans time won't come around again for the next 16 years.

    October 13, 2013 04:10 pm at 4:10 pm |
  20. Gary

    It just amazes me that whether they are on top or on the bottem. Republicans can't stop talking crap. They will say they want to work with the president and in the next sentence talk smack about him. How bout showing him the respect that comes with the office instead of trying to make him out as something he isn't. The 2 or 3 top guys you call your # 1 leaders spew more garbage than anyone. It is sad that to be relevent in the Republican party you have to to be a hateful idiot.
    I laughed this morning when Newt accused the others at the desk of reciting the same democratic talking points. Really? Newt are you serious? Republicans are like parrotts. They keep saying the same thing, exactly, every day.

    October 13, 2013 04:33 pm at 4:33 pm |
  21. Randy, San Francisco

    Sen McCain needs to understand "what goes around may not come around" because the Republican national brand is sinking into oblivion thanks to Tea Party insurgents.

    October 13, 2013 04:35 pm at 4:35 pm |
  22. GonzoinHouston

    He's right, what goes around, comes around. What went around was that the TP hijacked a fearful GOP and pulled a stupid shutdown move that utterly failed. What comes around will come in 2014.

    October 13, 2013 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
  23. 1twinsfan

    What are you talking about, Senator McCain? You're part of the problem. You put that dingbat Palin on your ticket and now every halfwit thinks they can run for public office. Sadly, thanks to district gerrymandering, these idiots get elected! Ted Cruz ring a bell?

    October 13, 2013 04:43 pm at 4:43 pm |
  24. Winston Smith

    Better keep that in mind next November, John.

    October 13, 2013 04:47 pm at 4:47 pm |
  25. Wake up People!

    McCain retire please. The democrats are NOT trying to humiliate the republicans. They are doing that on their own.

    But THEY have been trying to humiliate the POTUS for 5 long years.

    October 13, 2013 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
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