October 14th, 2013
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Manchin: Senate is 70%-80% close to a deal

Updated 10:32 a.m. ET, 10/14/2013

(CNN) – The Senate is 70% to 80% close to a deal to raise the debt ceiling and end the government shutdown, Sen. Joe Manchin, D-West Virginia, said Monday on CNN's "New Day."

"I think we're 70%-80% there, putting the extra 20-25% to it," he told CNN's Chris Cuomo. "When should the (continuing resolution) come due, when should the debt ceiling come due, and does that give that time for the budget conference, the budget committees to sit down and work through this? Those are the details that have to be worked out."

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Manchin and Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine over the weekend led a bipartisan group of 10 other senators to draft a plan that would end the ongoing stalemate in Washington. He said they have a "good template," and he believes both Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are looking at the plan.

"We're making progress. We're gonna continue to meet throughout the day. And the conversations have been very constructive," Collins told reporters on Capitol Hill Monday morning. "We're not gonna release any details until we have an agreement. I hope we will have an agreement. We're making progress toward an agreement, but we're not there yet."

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Reid, however, rejected the plan on Saturday, saying it's "not going to go anyplace at this stage."

"There are two good things in it, "Reid said Saturday in a press conference. "Number one, it opens the government. Number two, it extends the debt ceiling. Other than that there's little agreement with us."

The Senate voted on a separate procedural measure to extend the debt limit with no strings attached on Saturday, but the measure fell short of the 60 votes needed to proceed.

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Collins said Sunday she "was very surprised" when she heard Reid make his decision about the bipartisan proposal.

"I was very surprised when Senator Reid said that, I don't know why he said it. I don't think it was very constructive," Collins said on CNN's "State of the Union with Candy Crowley." "But the fact is we have a responsibility to govern and we're continuing to talk and I'm still hopeful that at least we sparked a dialogue that did not exist before we put out a plan."

So what exactly was in their plan?

The framework called for a longer extension of the debt limit and government funding, as well as a two-year delay on the 2.3% tax on medical devices, which is used to help pay for the new federal health care law. The plan would also give federal agencies greater flexibility to deal with the forced spending cuts known as sequestration.

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Manchin further explained Monday the deal would include verification measures to prevent people from "scamming or frauding" the health care insurance system. According the agreement, the Senate and the House would go to conference to reconcile their differences and work out a long-term budget deal. The deadline for the budget conference, however, is one of the details in the plan that hasn't been worked out.

The Treasury Department says it will be unable to pay the government's bills unless the debt limit is increased by Thursday. The partial shutdown of government services has been in effect since October 1.

But a key sticking point for Democrats is sequestration. While the Collins' plan give "flexibility" on the spending cuts, Democrats and the White House don't want to agree to anything that allows another round of the spending limits to kick in as they're supposed to in mid-January, senior Democratic sources told CNN's Dana Bash.

McConnell, who faces a tea party primary challenge in his 2014 re-election bid, is pushing back hard against the Democrats' insistence to get rid of the currently scheduled spending cuts.

Republican Sen. Bob Corker, who's been working closely with Manchin and Collins on the deal, said he has reason to believe the Senate will come to an agreement Monday.

"I know Mitch and Harry are talking, and I think we're about to get to a place to move something hopefully off the Senate floor that's widely bipartisan," he told CNN.

While it may not "attract the fringe on either side" the agreement may allow lawmakers to "pass something off the Senate floor," he added.

The Senate reconvened briefly Sunday afternoon but adjourned with no signs of progress on a deal. The Senate meets again Monday at 2 p.m. ET, while the House meets at noon.

Before leaving Capitol Hill on Sunday, Reid struck a positive note as he spoke on the Senate floor.

"I've had a productive conversation with the Republican leader this afternoon. Our discussions were substantive and we'll continue those discussions. I'm optimistic about the prospects for a positive conclusion," he said.

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soundoff (216 Responses)
  1. Largo

    If Obama will not compromise, there will be no compromise.

    October 14, 2013 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  2. moxjox

    "It is time to put an end to our march toward totalitarian socialism. ...it has become a hand out that has made them dependent on the gov't to survive"

    Does that include Soc Sec? If so, do we get rid of Soc Sec? Watch the riots in the streets happen since people will have absolutely NOTHING to lose...even the Baggers will riot when they don't get their money.

    October 14, 2013 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  3. Jose M. Guzman

    REPUBLICANS (TEA PARY) ARE DESTROYING AMERICA, creating animosity, they are the American Taliban.........we must get rid of them, Terrorists.

    October 14, 2013 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  4. AregisteredVoter

    Why is everyone so upset about giving large employers a waiver?? Haven't they always offered their workforce a very good medical plan.... Much ado about nothing,

    October 14, 2013 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  5. George

    PLEASE !!!!! Dxx it, pass something already before the stock market crashes.

    BTW – The Tea Party is not helping America. The Tea Party has to go and get a life somewhere but not in national politics.

    October 14, 2013 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  6. Cephus

    Why not solve this debt problem once and for all it makes no sense to raise the debt ceiling for six or three months because the same circus of political gridlock will be on and off again. Congress and the senate have work to do, oops they are paid for doing nothing.

    October 14, 2013 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  7. Max Willcart

    The Republicans need not to cave in too early. If they give too many concessions to the other side, this early in the game, then they are done. Paul Ryan and Rand Paul need to convince their GOP colleagues to tread carefully here.

    Was this not all about Obamacare at first? What happened to that argument – we caved in !! Now it is all about fiscal responsibility, are we to cave in here too?

    October 14, 2013 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  8. jgrueger

    This President is so weak and not a leader at all. He has done nothing but divided this country. He's very good at putting the fear into people and quickly blaming the Republicans. He's the one in charge and allowed this mess to continue. I applaud the Republicans (and I'm a Democrat) for trying to save this country and reduce spending. We cannot continue to keep spending like we have been. The Republicans should just let Obamacare go into affect and let it speak for itself. It's a disaster waiting to happen.

    October 14, 2013 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  9. joe

    They will tell you that we are a democracy, we have a constitution and anybody can be President no bar color or religion. I would only wish it would have been as stated, it is not. They never accepted Pres. Obama as president because he is black and has Muslim background. Things are easy said than done. Since Pres. Obama became president, Congress always obstructed and they did not let him pass anything. Pres. Obama did try to go along with conservatives on defense and security matters, so that he can get some cooperation in economic matters. It never happened.
    Other day this Asian lady was crowned as Miss America. Do you know what was said about it. So who are we fooling. So it is all propaganda .

    October 14, 2013 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  10. ddd

    Stealing from Peter to pay Paul.

    October 14, 2013 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
  11. Thomas

    Ted Cruz / Sarah Palin 2016

    We must destroy America to save America !

    October 14, 2013 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
  12. ddd

    Thank you Tea Party!!!!!!

    October 14, 2013 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
  13. tgraff

    This is the same idiot that thought he had gun control in the bag too.. Why do they bother interviewing stupid people.

    October 14, 2013 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  14. G90814

    Google "The GOP's little rule change they hoped you wouldn't notice". There's a youtube video, and article on HuffPost. This shows you who is responsible.

    October 14, 2013 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  15. Slector Hagg

    yes folks, it looks like all the righties are out there, screaming that their pockets are going to get picked again. Guess what: they are the ones who told us that tax cuts would pay for themselves, and wnough of us swallowed that nonsense that we gulped it down. Now we are paying the piper for the conservatives and their stupidity, and all we are left with is jobs at Wal Mart: how does it feel to be living on the GOP plantation, whether u want to be or not? Thanks for screwing up our lives and the lives of our children and grandhildren: reap what u sow.

    October 14, 2013 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  16. Carl

    There is an alien in the White House, and the Senate is led by a hack.

    October 14, 2013 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  17. America First

    The Clean CR isn't good enough. We need revenue. When a major political candidate worth a billion dollars pays a lower tax rate than a public school teacher, it's time we had this fight. When nearly all corporations pay zero or close to zero in taxes, it's time we had this fight. Since the TEA SLAGS brought it, let's finish it.

    October 14, 2013 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
  18. Ricky

    This is a Republican shutdown, and when the Republicans stop acting like babies, the shutdown will end. No deal until then!! If they want to default, let's default!!!

    October 14, 2013 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
  19. Malory Archer


    If Obama will not compromise, there will be no compromise.


    In other words, if Obama won't cave to the rethugs and kill his signature legislation, there will be no "compromise".

    October 14, 2013 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
  20. America First

    Split it – half revenue, half cuts. Don't give away the farm just because they're trying to burn down the house, default the US, and start another RECESSION. The TEA SLAGS are spawns of Satan.

    October 14, 2013 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
  21. california99

    Yeap! Blame it on the GOP and the Tea Party for the Goverment Shutdown!!!! The republicans are the mostly to blame because their are made that Obama finally got the Healthcare thru!......If the country defaults it will be the Republicans to BLAME...like 'that' Cruz congressman! NO to the GOP! in 2014!!!! vote them out!!

    October 14, 2013 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
  22. Doris Durand

    I feel the same Jose M. Guzman, it's the tea party fault, the American Taliban.

    October 14, 2013 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
  23. Anne Ryan

    It,s about time both parties started talking to each other and move forward looking like leaders, isn,t that the way they refer to terrorists too learning how to talk to each other. I see China is not impressed and they are able to offer an opinion.

    October 14, 2013 11:37 am at 11:37 am |
  24. california99

    Yeap! Blame it on the GOP and the Tea Party for the Goverment Shutdown!!!! The Republicans are mostly to blame because their are mad that Obama finally got the Healthcare bill thru!......If the country defaults it will be the Republican's to BLAME...like 'that' Cruz congressman! NO to the GOP! in 2014!!!! vote them out!!

    October 14, 2013 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  25. sundownr

    Thank you Congress for your unbelievably poor ethics. May you all roast in hell for your conduct displayed on behalf of the American people. America is now less than it was before because we allow lunatics to make our decisions.

    October 14, 2013 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
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