CNN's GUT CHECK for October 15, 2013
October 15th, 2013
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CNN's GUT CHECK for October 15, 2013

CNN's GUT CHECK | for October 15, 2013 | 5 p.m.
n. a pause to assess the state, progress or condition of the political news cycle

BREAKING: AMERICA’S RATING ON WARNING… Fitch warns of possible downgrade of U.S. AAA credit rating, citing risk of default from 'political brinkmanship:' “The U.S. risks being forced to incur widespread delays of payments to suppliers and employees, as well as social security payments to citizens – all of which would damage the perception of U.S. sovereign creditworthiness and the economy.”

HOUSE ‘EXPECTING’ TO VOTE TONIGHT: House Speaker John Boehner was "struggling" to come up with enough votes to pass a GOP counter-proposal to the Senate plan, a House Republican leadership aide and other sources told CNN's Dana Bash and Deirdre Walsh.

WHAT IS IN THE HOUSE GOP PLAN: House GOP sources say the they plan to bring a bill to the floor tonight that would include the following provisions: fund the government until Dec. 15 (a month earlier than a plan the Senate is discussing); raise the debt limit until Feb. 7 and not allow the Treasury Secretary to use extraordinary measures to extent that deadline; prohibit federal health care subsidies for members of Congress, their staff, the president, vice president, and administration officials and staff.

WHAT IS NOT IN THE HOUSE BILL: House Republicans have dropped two demands related to Obamacare from their proposal to end the fiscal stalemate in Washington, sources told CNN. These include a proposal to delay the medical device tax and another to tighten income verification of those seeking subsidies to purchase health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.

CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS SAY NO: “I cannot support that bill at this time,” Republican Rep. Ted Yoho of Florida told CNN’s Jake Tapper. Two key conservatives – Reps. Mick Mulvaney and Jim Jordan – were noncommittal when CNN’s Dana Bash asked them whether they would support the speaker’s deal. Heritage Action, the political arm of the political Heritage Foundation, has expectedly urged members to vote no.

SENATE ON HOLD: The Senate discussions are on hold while they await the House version, but Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, who has been pushing her own version of a bill, just suggested that the Senate may also be in disarray, too. “It appears that they don’t have an agreement,” Collins told reporters, referring to Reid and McConnell.

UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS INCREASE AS SHUTDOWN CONTINUES… The number of furloughed federal government workers applying for unemployment assistance is continuing to rise as the partial government shutdown continues into its third week. In Maryland alone, almost 20,000 new applications from furloughed federal workers have been submitted, while over 5,000 applications have come in from furloughed workers in Virginia. In Washington, D.C., over 15,000 new requests for unemployment assistance have been filed in the past 15 days. – Laura Koran

THE BUZZ: CHENEY OUT-RAISES ENZI IN WYOMING PRIMARY: Senate challenger Liz Cheney tops incumbent Mike Enzi in the 3rd quarter fundraising contest, raking in $1,027,000, which beat incumbent Enzi’s haul of $847,646.
MARKET WATCH: U.S. stocks fall as debt ceiling deal talks hit a snag. Dow loses 134 points. NSADAQ sheds 0.6%. S&P trims 0.7%.

(Answer below)
What president is credited with instituting the first affirmative action policy in the United States?

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Leading CNNPolitics: For Senate leaders, bitter history morphs into working relationship on deal
Two opposing Senate leaders with a tense history are emerging as the key players in the latest deal to end the shutdown and extend the debt ceiling. With talks between House Republicans and the White House at a standstill, the negotiating spotlight's firmly on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. – Paul Steinhauser

Leading Drudge: More 'Ice Bombs' Found At Lax 'Near Planes'
Detectives Tuesday continued their efforts to find the suspect wanted for planting dry ice bombs around Los Angeles International Airport. One dry ice bomb exploded and two plastic bottles containing the dangerous material were found around 8:30 p.m. Monday at the Tom Bradley International Terminal in a restricted area, Los Angeles Police Department Det. Gus Villanueva said.

Leading HuffPo: House Chaos: 'Plan' Falls Apart
House Republicans made one last attempt to fund the government and lift the debt ceiling on their own terms Tuesday, but Democrats declared it was "doomed to failure," and it was unclear whether House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) even had the votes needed to pass it on his side. – Sabrina Siddiqui, Michael McAuliff and Luke Johnson

Leading Politico: Pressure rising on Boehner
Speaker John Boehner, who has wrestled with an unruly pack of conservatives for months, will soon be faced with an uncomfortable choice: Pass an emerging bipartisan Senate deal to lift the debt ceiling and fund the government, or don’t — and risk massive political and economic consequences. – Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan

Leading The New York Times: Senate Women Lead in Effort to Find Accord
Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, frustrated with the lack of progress on the government shutdown, put together a bipartisan group to move things along. – Jonathan Weisman and Jennifer Steinhauer

The political bites of the day

- Rush goes scorched earth on GOP -
RUSH LIMBAUGH ON HIS SYNDICATED TALK SHOW: “They think the last 15 days have eliminated any chance they've got of winning any elections in 2014 and 2016, and I am not kidding. They think Cruz and Lee and the people that led this have doomed them, and they are defeated. They are out of strategies. It's just mind-boggling that they don't have the long view, that they don't understand the seeds that they're planting right now.”

- The Senate waits, debates -
SENATE MAJORITY LEADER HARRY REID IN A SPEECH ON THE SENATE FLOOR: “This bill that they're sending over here is doomed to failure. It's doomed to failure legislatively and it’s so awful, awful, awful for our country.”
REPUBLICAN SEN. JOHN MCCAIN OF ARIZONA IN A SPEECH ON THE SENATE FLOOR: “The speaker of the House has come forward with what we believe is a plan which would reopen the government, extend the debt limit and has several other provisions in it. And the reaction to that has been condemnation, immediate, automatic condemnation by the majority leader, by the White House, by the Democrats in the House. I don't understand that. I don't understand that visceral reaction in a most negative fashion.”

- We may have already defaulted -
FELIX SALMON, AN OPINION COLUMNIST FOR REUTERS: "Right now, with the shutdown, we’ve already reached the point at which the government is breaking very important promises indeed: we promised to pay hundreds of thousands of government employees a certain amount on certain dates, in return for their honest work. We have broken that promise. Indeed, by Treasury’s own definition, it’s reasonable to say that we have already defaulted: surely, by any sensible conception, the salaries of government employees constitute 'legal obligations of the US.'"

- Obama awards Medal of Honor, says our nations needs this -
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA AWARDS THE MEDAL OF HONOR TO U.S. ARMY CAPTAIN WILLIAM SWENSON: “I think our nation needs this ceremony today. In moments like this, American’s like Will remind us of what our country can be at its best, a nation of citizens who look out for one another, who meet our obligations to one another not just when it's easy, but when it's hard, maybe especially because it's hard.”

What stopped us in 140 characters or less

Pew Research Center (@pewresearch)
Share of voters (38%) who do not want their OWN representative reelected as high as it's been in two decades

Neil King (@NKingofDC)
RedState weighs in, with glee: "GOP Leaders, by caving, are signaling they want us to primary them." … via @ewerickson

Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis)
Oh, the irony that the House R's final big demand is something supported by...Elizabeth Warren.

Michael Martinez (@MMartinezCNN)
Bob Filner pleads guilty to all three charges against him in a deal with prosecutors

amy walter (@amyewalter)
yikes! new analysis finds 99.6% of visitors to didn't actually enroll in ACA. Via @CMAGAdFacts

Reince Priebus (@Reince)
$400 million in taxpayer $. 55 contractors. Yet #ObamaCare site “isn’t even ready for beta testing.” #FireSebelius

The Fix (@TheFix)
Mitt Romney won white voters by 20 points. In new WaPo poll, 74% of whites disapprove of GOP handling of shutdown.

Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN)
Tareq Salahi wants Virginians to write his name in for governor. His pitch to voters: He is "Not so Bad after All!"

Amanda Terkel (@aterkel)
William Howard Taft "employed a personal trainer, known at the time as 'a physical culture man.'"


The Supreme Court on Tuesday confronted one of its biggest cases of the term so far, another high-profile challenge to affirmative action in college admissions. The justices were asked to decide the constitutionality of a voter referendum in Michigan banning race- and sex-based discrimination or preferential treatment in public university admission decisions.

Since its inception, affirmative action - or the act factoring in someone’s "race, color, religion, sex or national origin" into consideration in academics and hiring – has been controversial.

The practice was first established by President John F. Kennedy in 1961, when the Democratic president issued Executive Order 10925 that mandated government contractors "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin."

It is unclear if Kennedy intended the mandate to extend beyond government contractors, however it was seen at the time as a symbol of Kennedy's efforts to provide opportunity to everyone.

In 1965, Lyndon B. Johnson recommitted to affirmative action with his own executive order.

(why aren’t you in it)

Steve Liguori (@SteveL3877) wins two days in a row. Can someone challenge him tomorrow?

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  1. Sniffit

    The latest shenanigans from the House GOP/Teatrolls look about ready to fail: Not only has Pelosi said that it will receive ZERO votes from Dems, but Heritage Foundation and other collections of radicalized RWNJs have said they are keeping a score card and telling House GOPers/Teatrolls NOT to vote for it (because it's not radical enough) or it will be used against them in the primaries.

    Having fun yet, Boehner? Maybe next time you'll think twice about helping astroturf yourselves up a Frankenstein monster. Reap what you sowed, Weepy...REAP IT. Enjoy your vote of no confidence.

    October 15, 2013 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  2. Gurgyl


    October 15, 2013 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  3. tom l

    The latest shenanigans from the House GOP/Teatrolls look about ready to fail: Not only has Pelosi said that it will receive ZERO votes from Dems, but Heritage Foundation....

    But, but, but....the ACA is from the Heritage Foundation. How can YOU support something from the Heritage Foundation? If you were consistent, you would be against this but since you have to support all-things-Obama/democrat you will fight forever supporting it. Makes. No. Sense.

    October 15, 2013 06:04 pm at 6:04 pm |
  4. tom l

    Forgot to mention that "the ACA comes from the Heritage Foundation" as one of my favorite liberal talking points.

    October 15, 2013 06:07 pm at 6:07 pm |
  5. Moorbo

    Here we are at the brink of the deadline and getting our credit downgraded and the GOP thinks it is important not to lessen the impact of hitting the deadline or removing it to prevent future downgrades, but instead to make it even more likely that we will be downgraded with a hard deadline when this happens again in a few months. Thanks, GOP that is sure to calm the world markets and keep the interest rates on our debt low.

    October 15, 2013 06:12 pm at 6:12 pm |
  6. Sniffit

    No vote tonight: apparently, someone who can count finally told Boehner that their latest shenanigans have no chance of passing, both because Dems won't vote for it AND because the most ideologically dogmatic Teatrolls won't either.

    Newsflash: No, that does not mean the latest nonsense "must have been an actual compromise."

    October 15, 2013 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |
  7. Anonymous

    So, the threat by Fitch of a possible downgrade of the US AAA credit rating is not enough to get the attention of the
    tea party, but................
    A threat by the Heritage Foundation that if they vote for the House Bill, they will be targeted in the next election,
    causes them to cancel the vote that was supposed to happen tonight.

    Pretty pathetic, not to mention almost treasonous.

    October 15, 2013 06:24 pm at 6:24 pm |
  8. Keith ..... in Oregon

    I like the proposal to fund government and extend the debt limit but require Obama, Biden and both houses of Congress to buy their coverage using Obamacare exchanges. Seems fair to me.

    October 15, 2013 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  9. Larry in Houston

    to be perfectly honest, I've been blaming the bonehead a little too much. It's the far right who is the real problem, and the bonehead can't talk to them, it seems like. But I don't feel sorry for the bonehead, at any rate. He deserves whatever he gets. I guess we're goin to what they say in "Star Trek" "go where no man has gone" come Friday morning. Guess unchartered waters isn't always safe, unless you're prepared.

    October 15, 2013 07:19 pm at 7:19 pm |
  10. Sikovliblies

    The problem is Obama, Reid, Nancy P and those who fear them well as those far-lefties who just like to fight against conservatives no matter what. The latter is easy to them....they don't even listen; they just get their smirk ready and dive in with nonsense....well, anyone with cognitive ability would know their remarks are assuming we all have cognitive ability, then I don't understand why everyone can't see the Shutdown and upcoming Debt Ceiling problems are all the fault of Obama, Reid, Nancy P and those who fear them.

    October 15, 2013 07:19 pm at 7:19 pm |
  11. Thomas

    House Speaker , Put a Clean Spending Bill on the Floor for a VOTE !

    You created the Tea Party for your party's political gain , you should have never let them off the leash .

    You are responsible !

    October 15, 2013 08:16 pm at 8:16 pm |