December 2nd, 2013
02:08 PM ET
9 years ago
With website deadline met, Obamacare scrutiny increases
Washington (CNN) - By declaring the Obamacare website now works as originally planned, with most users able to navigate it smoothly, the administration effectively painted a big target on it.
Detractors led by conservative Republicans now will look for any anecdotal evidence of continued problems with HealthCare.gov in their efforts to depict President Barack Obama's signature domestic accomplishment as the ultimate example of government overreach and mismanagement.
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"Detractors led by conservative Republicans now will look for any anecdotal evidence of continued problems "
Anecdotes =/= data.
On Feb. 28, 2014, the 160 year anniversary of the Republican Party, people will gather around to celebrate the end of the once proud party of Lincoln. Tea baggers have destroyed so much in a few years.
Can't wait until next year when we vote out GOP garbage and get back to serving the American people!
Republicans are such losers. When you wingnuts have no accomplishments to run on, your only hope to win elections is to convince the brain dead that making people suffer because they have no health care is good.
Geesh! The GOTP has an entire playbook of slanderous punchlines aimed at the law regardless of it works or not. How about you so called media organizations start focusing more on what HEALTHCARE reform is about. It's not about a website, it's about giving people access to affordable HEALTHCARE.
The Kochs and their ilk have spent several hundred million dollars to destroy ACA. How is that working, wingnuts?
What is sad is that there are millions of Republicans that are gonna see their rate go down and some will see their rate go up, but you will still here the Repubs that seen their rate go down still complain.
They have to stay on the ACA so the public doesn't look at what they are doing. NOTHING except going on vacation to raise money to get reelected.
Sniffit
"Detractors led by conservative Republicans now will look for any anecdotal evidence of continued problems "
Anecdotes =/= data.
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When the web site crashes right in front of Sebelius and while the media looks on, data is irrelelavnt at that point. Perception is all that matters. But of course we'd also welcome actual data from the Obama administration on how many people have had the web site crash on them, how many people couldn't get through, how many people had their applications screwed up. Of course all that data will never see the light of day from this most transparently corrupt administration.
so how many people have actually paid for these plans? the part that handles the payment wasn't completed, as are other parts of this web site. do we know, two months later, just how many holes and incomplete parts there are to this website? we know the security is almost non-existant. how can they hold out this frankenstein of a web site to be complete and ready for action?
Sebelius "emphasized that they have time to sign up before the Dec 23 deadline to get coverage that starts Jan 1"
Republicans had better scurry. So much to do, so little time. They just came off of a 10- day Thanksgiving break,
and have only 8 days before their 3- week Christmas break.
Remind me again..........what are we paying them for?
"Republicans will now look for any anecdotal evidence of continued problems", and as these problems disappear, they will lie and make up problems, because they know their sheep will believe anything they say.
@Donna – spouting more of that GOP anecdotal "evidence" again?
No-one without an trolling agenda really cares how many folks didn't get thru..or how many had the site crash on them, or that MS, Yahoo and Amazon handle millions of transactions a year (they didn't when they started).. Given the percentage of the population this applies to – it's infinitely microscopic in nature – like the voter fraud you believe is rampant. Get educated sweetie.
"Republicans will now look for any anecdotal evidence of continued problems"
I know this is a crazy idea, but maybe they could, um, help run the government, help citizens, be leaders, instead of carrying out the "destroy the president" agenda.
"When the web site crashes right in front of Sebelius and while the media looks on, data is irrelelavnt at that point."
Data is always relevant. When a website already known to be broken at the time happens to behave in a broken manner in front of a camera, that's what's called redundant information.
"Perception is all that matters."
In the GOP/Teatrolls' fundamentally flawed ideological fantasy land, perhaps, but for the rest of us a working website that is perceived as broken is still a working website. All you do with that statement is prove that no matter how fixed or working the website is, the GOP/Teatrolls hope to cultivate the perception that it's broken, partly because they hope it will deter people from signing up. Misinformation campaigns and demagoguery are all you have left, which is why you've been trained to believe that perception trumps data.
"But of course we'd also welcome actual data from the Obama administration on how many people have had the web site crash on them"
That data is not possible to collect.
"how many people couldn't get through"
Likewise. This and the last are pretty irrelevant though. Someone can have it crash or not be able to get through in October and then sign up just fine in December and so it would, in the grand scheme of things and in the long term, make very little difference how many times they "couldn't get through" other than perhaps on a customer satisfaction survey.
"how many people had their applications screwed up."
Depends on what you mean by "screwed up." They likely collect data on unfinished or abandoned applications and they likely keep data on how many times a certain glitch or error occurred. However, there's no reliable way to determine whether it was the same customer over and over again or someone who set up something like the "Destroy Obama Care" program, etc.
Let 'em look.
Make 'em weep.
"Remind me again..........what are we paying them for?"
Got me what we are paying them for. Perhaps during their up coming "town hall" events folks will start directing that question to their representatives.
""Republicans will now look for any anecdotal evidence of continued problems", and as these problems disappear, they will lie and make up problems, because they know their sheep will believe anything they say."
Actually, even when the website was in shambles they were resorting to fabricating anecdotes, as was proven when they had various anti-ACA guests go on Hannity's show and lie their faces off, and then it was promptly caught and reported on by one of the more honest "news" outlets out there (i.e., not here), which completely debunked everything those guests claimed.
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@Donna – spouting more of that GOP anecdotal "evidence" again?
Given the percentage of the population this applies to – it's infinitely microscopic in nature – like the voter fraud you believe is rampant. Get educated sweetie.
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So where are your FACTS to back up your statement? You have none. The pathetic October enrollment numbers back up my statements. You are just making it up as you go, just like Obama, just like the web site. Your response is beyond lame. Get real sweetie. Living in the delusional lefty koolaide bubble is no way to go through life Mr. Blutarski.
"Of course all that data will never see the light of day from this most transparently corrupt administration."
Oh, yes... by all means. This administration is soooo much more ' transparently corrupt ' than say Nixon. He may have broke the law, tried to fix our elections with his 'hit list', and lied, but he never had problems with a website. Reagan and his selling arms to our enemies and lying about it.... but he never had problems with a website. And Hoover, his having the National Guard fire on the peacefully protesting War Veterans may have been a faux pas, but he never had problems with a website. And george bush I.... he may have sat on his hands for four years and lost the Presidency to some hick from Arkansas (I think the republicants see this as worse than any of those other things), but he never had problems with a website....
Donna, you have enlightened us all with intricate ideas and studious nature. Your brilliant posts are unrivealed in their humor and intelligence.
That last part is as accurate as your previous (and tedious) attacks on the President.
You criticize him if he inhales, and crucify him if he exhales....
So this web site is ready for action two months after it rolled out? hahahahaha, only in government fantasy land where failure is the norm.
1. The web sites security is not what it needs to be.
2. The part that allows people to pay for what they have bought it not done.
3. The part that pays the insurnace company for what was bought is not done.
4. Small businesses have been told not to use the site to enroll in Obamacare.
5. The ability to shop for a plan without registering is not enabled.
6. People have been told to go to the web site at non-prime time so it doesn't get overwhelmed.
7. (reserved for future disclosures of failed and/or unimplemented functionality).
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10. (reserved for future disclosures of failed and/or unimplemented functionality).
Ted Cruz was quite right when he said if they can't stop ACA before it kicked in 1st Oct. they will never do anything once people taste the sweetness of it.
-Donna
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@Donna – spouting more of that GOP anecdotal "evidence" again?
Given the percentage of the population this applies to – it's infinitely microscopic in nature – like the voter fraud you believe is rampant. Get educated sweetie.
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So where are your FACTS to back up your statement? You have none. The pathetic October enrollment numbers back up my statements. You are just making it up as you go, just like Obama, just like the web site. Your response is beyond lame. Get real sweetie. Living in the delusional lefty koolaide bubble is no way to go through life Mr. Blutarski.
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All the enrollment numbers prove is that website rollout was a dud, not that the idea of covering people with private insurance and setting basic standards for coverage was flawed. As far as being delusional, keep telling yourself that this will save your party. Already, the GOp over reach has begun, with Rush Limbaugh attacking the Pope and the RNC reminding people why blacks rejected the GOP in the last election by 94%. Those are hard cold facts, facts that the GOP is starting to remind people as to why they don't deserve power. You've learned nothing. Arrogant, smug, and pompous is not way to go through life, son. That's the line you should have been parodying.
Republicans, please get a life !
"When the web site crashes right in front of Sebelius and while the media looks on, data is irrelelavnt at that point. Perception is all that matters. But of course we'd also welcome actual data from the Obama administration on how many people have had the web site crash on them, how many people couldn't get through, how many people had their applications screwed up. Of course all that data will never see the light of day from this most transparently corrupt administration."
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It is nearly impossible to know how many people experienced a web site crash. It is only possible to know how many people were actually logged in at the time of a crash. You can't know how many tried unsuccessfully while it was down.
The problem is just as difficult as knowing how many people sneak across the border without your knowledge. If you knew how many people were sneaking across the border, then they wouldn't be sneaking across the border. They'd be caught.