February 12th, 2014
03:27 PM ET
9 years ago
Senate passes debt-ceiling plan in blow to conservatives
Washington (CNN) - The Senate voted Wednesday to avert at least one chronic Washington political crisis for at least a year.
With a snowstorm bearing down on the capital, it approved a House-passed measure that allows the government to borrow more money to pay its bills through March 2015.
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Finally. Congress acting like grown ups.
See that? Sen. Majority Leader defied the cynical predictions and brought a clean bill to the floor. He asked for it. He got it. He put it on the floor for a vote. And, it passed. People have given House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi a lot of credit for organizing support for the clean bill that passed the House yesterday. Today we have Sen. Majority Leader Reid bringing home the baton. As ugly and distasteful as a debt ceiling increase is, it took Democrats to get it done.
I guess conservatives can't skip out on the bill this time
This should not be an issue. Unless every member of Congress can squeeze the money out their districts to pay off the entire debt, this has to be done. There aren't enough mature members of Congress who are willing to take a long hard look at the DoD budget along with Social Security and Medicare. Once those three big things are changed to take a smaller part of the budget, then we will be better off.
Haha. What does this leave the GOP/Teatrolls? Nothing. Well, nothing but votes 50-something through 70-something or so to try to repeal or undermine the ACA in some fashion. IF that's all they do from here to November, President Romney is going end up with a big sad.
Why is the debt limit being raised? Obama saispd before the last increase that we would not need to raise it any more. It is because his lies an corruption need to be fed and the democrat liberal "Progressives" need to give more money for the votes of the dopers, welfare frauds and corrupt unions. Obama is a lying creep. Oh, oh now aim aracist and will be harassed by the IRS.
The repub/tea bags who voted to default on our nation's debt suffered a "blow" to their agenda?
How is this not a good thing? And how is it that people continue to vote for those yahoos knowing how irresponsible and just plain dumb they are?
@John in Brooklyn: "Finally. Congress acting like grown ups."
No, a majority of repub/tea bags are still acting like whiny toddlers by voting against raising the debt ceiling (which, BTW, was raised cleanly/without provision 19 times under GW).
Until we vote ALL these democrats out – our country is severely debilitated.
If repub/tea bags were so concerned about wasteful spending, they'd immediately eliminate the multi-billion-dollar federal subsidy for the oil industry, which has been enjoying record profits for the last several years. Ditto on closing loopholes for American millionaires and billionaires who are hiding income overseas to avoid taxes. After collecting every last dime owed to us for their use of our infrastructure, they'd all still be rolling in dough.
How about it, repub/tea bags?
-freedom
Until we vote ALL these democrats out – our country is severely debilitated.
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So, I guess paying your bills is a bad thing?
@Stuffitu: Cite your souce; I highly doubt President Obama said we wouldn't need to raise the debt ceiling again.
The paranoia and misinformation is strong this one ...
Since congress is the only one who can approve spending, then they must pay unconditionally for those debts.
Conservative is a misused word,the so called conservative.today is more self serving than conservative, they hand out corporAte welfare without hesitation
When the Republican's ploy to shut down the government collapsed the last time I said the Tea Party was effectively dead. I still believe that. I don't think the Tea Party will disappear overnight, but it seems to have lost critical mass among Republicans. Without sufficient votes to sustain a filibuster, the Tea Party becomes little more than an alliance of the most conservative Republicans - more of a club than a political force. That is good news for the country and the Republican party.
@ThinkAgain
@Stuffitu: Cite your souce; I highly doubt President Obama said we wouldn't need to raise the debt ceiling again.
The paranoia and misinformation is strong this one ...
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Judging by the conspiracy folks that are all showing up to comment, I would suggest not even bothering to ask for evidence. It was undoubtedly stolen by Big Foot.
@The Real TP,
"Tom, with regards to your beliefs not being tested, I was pointing out the fact that a Libertarian has never had the responsibility of governing. Governing does not give you the luxury of being ideogically pure, and until you have seen one of your own in the position of having to make tough calls and being forced to compromise, you cannot say your beliefs have been tested. I agree with you about the Patriot Act, that it was a horrible solution to a horrible problem. The loss of civil liberties is not something that I want to see happen, but I don't want a terrorist attack, either. Like everyone else, I've been forced to make an umpleasant choice. Has the program been carried out in a fashion that I am comfortable with? No. The reason I stay quiet on the subject is that I am willing to give the President an opportunity to change the program and find that balance. I gave Bush the same benefit of the doubt as well. Is it perfect? Hardly, but I will not support people that naively seem to trust our enemies to behave with the same values as ourselves. I don't want Rand Paul to be the next Henry Wallace, and naively leave this country without a means of stopping people who would do harm to us. You make a lot of assumptions without understanding that I am not a cookie-cutter liberal, that I see shades of gray where you see only black and white. The sublties of these arguments really can't be discussed here, which is a pity. I don't think that a pointless lawsuit will cast a light on anthing we already don't know."
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I agree with much of what you said. Other than a few that I won't mention, I think that many of us on here are very gray (unfortunately this comment section doesn't function well in getting to the gray and comments become black and white). This is clearly evidenced by the fact that you think I'm black/white and I am most definitely not and I think that you are black/white. In the same vain, on many occasions in the past many liberals on here make broad assumptions about me but you know that it's not true (the most common one is foreign policy). But isn't that what this board unfortunately perpetuates as we can make comments (some post, some don't – you know the frustration I speak of) so we all want to be clear on our point? As much as I come across to you as black/white, I feel that you come off that way, as well. That's the nature of the beast. I think you're right that it would be very tough to be president as you have to make very difficult decisions every day and compromise your own beliefs (that's the nature of the job) but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't call them on it when they do compromise their very beliefs. The NSA is a core core example of that, IMHO. The Patriot Act was despised by the left, and I sided with them at the time, but now they are not nearly as vocal and make excuses. That's the point that I'm trying to make.
On a wholly separate note, you made a good point that I needed to not take myself so seriously on here and laugh a little. I have truly taken that to heart but I gotta tell you, it's tough! Just look at the obvious joke that I made in the Clarence Thomas article (I even put a smiley face at the end so that people know it was just a joke), and look at the reaction. Especially hone in on who replied back and what they said. You said I shouldn't take things so seriously, can you maybe try to convey that same sentiment to those that made their replies?
I think this has been a constructive, good Tom-Tom day, by the way. 🙂
@Tom Paine
That's exactly it – the democrat's mantra – let someone else pay my bills. Republicans believe in work ethic and opportunity and freedom. Not afraid to pay their own bills.
@DMFO,
I didn't realize that I stole your line (usual suspects). My bad. I will refrain from using it and I thank you for not brining out a lawsuit for patent infringement. 🙂
The blank check is once again, handed to Obama.
Next on the GOP agenda......
Repeal Obamacare.
Repeal Roe vs Wade.
Rinse and Repeat.
These people are hilarious!!