New Yorkers to de Blasio: Keep the horses
March 19th, 2014
01:17 PM ET
8 years ago

New Yorkers to de Blasio: Keep the horses

(CNN) - Most New Yorkers apparently don't agree with their new mayor's push to ban horse-drawn carriages from the city.

And a new Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday also indicates that most New York City voters don't favor Mayor Bill de Blasio's plan to pay for universal pre-kindergarten.

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According to the survey, 64% of New York City voters say that de Blasio shouldn't ban the horse-drawn carriages, a longtime popular attraction with tourists visiting the city, with just under a quarter questioned in favor of the move.

At the end of last year, soon after he was elected in a landslide victory and just before he was inaugurated as mayor, de Blasio announced plans to immediately outlaw the carriages once in office.

"We are going to get rid of horse carriages, period," de Blasio said at a news conference, saying that the practice is inhumane.

De Blasio said he favored replacing the carriages with electric antique cars driven by the same carriage drivers, which he said would be more humane and still be appealing to tourists.

But the mayor's push to ban the carriages has stalled for now, with the City Council not yet acting on the proposal, and celebrities taking sides. The latest to weigh in: longtime animal rights activist Pink supports de Blasio's move, with actor Liam Neeson opposed.

"On an issue that has generated an immense amount of interest – with celebrities speaking loudly on both sides – voters reject almost 3-1 Mayor de Blasio's opposition to horse-drawn carriages," said Quinnipiac University Poll Assistant Director Maurice Carroll.

How to pay for pre-K

Eighty-six percent of New York City voters support government funded universal pre-K, another issue that the mayor's pushing. But by a 54%-35% margin, the poll indicates they back New York State Gov. Andrew Cuomo's plan to pay for universal pre-K using existing state funds rather than de Blasio's proposal to pay for pre-K with a city income tax hike on families making more than $500,000 per year.

De Blasio, the first Democrat in two decades to serve as New York mayor, has a 45%-34% approval/disapproval rating in the Quinnipiac poll. That's down from a 53%-13% rating in mid-January Quinnipiac survey.

The Quinnipiac University poll was conducted March 12-17, with 1,234 New York City voters questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 2.8 percentage points.

CNN Political Editor Paul Steinhauser contributed to this report

Filed under: Bill de Blasio • New York
soundoff (44 Responses)
  1. i'malib

    It is not fair to the horses. They should be allowed to run free without pulling anything. Plus, they cause global warming. I say, if you want to stop global warming, don't use gas. Take the bus.

    March 19, 2014 02:28 pm at 2:28 pm |
  2. justuandme

    The stables are not located in Central Park. You are not from NY.

    March 19, 2014 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  3. Rick McDaniel

    De Blasio is a communist dictator..........he has no intention, of listening to the people.

    March 19, 2014 02:34 pm at 2:34 pm |
  4. iceload

    This is just a strawman to draw attention away from NY education issue's, retirement issue's and how to pay for a 100 year old infrastructure. The mayor doesn't want too much attention paid to real issue's.

    March 19, 2014 02:34 pm at 2:34 pm |
  5. TwoInchTammy

    By this logic, some people cannot humanely keep their children, therefore all child birth should be banned. Why don't they try addressing the issue – if you must get the government involved – instead of outlawing everything.

    March 19, 2014 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |
  6. Debs NJ

    What is inhumane is if the city does get rid of the horses, most likely, the horses will be sold and sent to the slaughter house. Its costs about $15K a year to board and feed a horse and most of these people cannot afford that. Keep the horses Mr. Mayor and move on to more important issues that plague the city.

    March 19, 2014 02:38 pm at 2:38 pm |
  7. Jme

    A liberal ruling against the will of the people......imagine that. Where have we seen this type of thing before? That is right....Obama.

    March 19, 2014 02:39 pm at 2:39 pm |
  8. justuandme

    Actually, TwoInchTammy I agree with what you said and some people should not keep their children or even have them for obvious reasons. It is not outlawing everything, If you had any concerns about life you would have understood. To have these majestic animals breathing in the pollution day in day out is already a death warrant they did not ask for. If they are feeling sick or not well they cannot communicate. It is us to decide or guess weather an animal is not well. Until animals can communicate I see no reason to force them to do our daily tasks. But then again I have a conscience.

    March 19, 2014 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  9. Anonymous

    new yorkers want charter schools
    new yorkers want carriage horses in cp
    new yorkers saw the mayor speed, run stop signs and break traffic laws just after a news conference decrying wreckless new yorkers behind the wheel.
    new yorkers saw how the mayor got one of his cronies off the hook while under arrest by the nypd
    why?, then why? did we elect this twit?

    March 19, 2014 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  10. molinyc

    new yorkers want charter schools
    new yorkers want carriage horses in cp
    new yorkers saw the mayor speed, run stop signs and break traffic laws just after a news conference decrying wreckless new yorkers behind the wheel.
    new yorkers saw how the mayor got one of his cronies off the hook while under arrest by the nypd
    why?, then why? did we elect this twit?

    March 19, 2014 02:47 pm at 2:47 pm |
  11. God bless all Christians

    I wish Bloomberg was still the mayor.... DeBlasio added Islamic holiday to the calendar and kicked out the rich!!!

    March 19, 2014 02:48 pm at 2:48 pm |
  12. Tampa Tim

    God bless all Christians
    I wish Bloomberg was still the mayor.... DeBlasio added Islamic holiday to the calendar and kicked out the rich!!!
    What is the official religion of NYC?

    March 19, 2014 02:52 pm at 2:52 pm |
  13. Bill

    This is a prime example of a politician stuck in an echo chamber, and only listening to the special interests that elected him. Banning horse drawn carriages is a pet cause of some liberal celebrities that the mayor likes to hobknob with, so, it (ridiculously) makes it onto his list of priorities.

    We need representatives that represent us, not their elite inner circle. It doesn't matter whether that elite inner circle is made up of bankers or animal activist celebrities.

    March 19, 2014 02:52 pm at 2:52 pm |
  14. Spike

    The horse carriages are a private business competing with the public for central park and the city streets. The carriages provide expensive amusement for a few thousand tourists a year. Visit central park on a sunny day. There are tens of thousands of people out walking, running and biking, competing for space with the carriages. The carriages leave a trail of urine and waste and fill up much of the carriage road. The carriages are driven at a snails pace from their distant stables through congested city streets, ignoring red lights and pedestrians in crosswalks at great danger to the horses and other drivers. Time for this annoying business to be shut down.

    March 19, 2014 02:53 pm at 2:53 pm |
  15. Tim

    @ i'malib I certainly hope that your comment was meant to be sarcastic. If it wasn't I would point out gross flaws in your logic. First of all I cannot fathom how you have come to the conclusion that horses create pollution. That may be my mistaking what you have written, but as written your post seems to suggest that. I would also disagree with your assertion that you should take the bus to stop pollution. This would only reduce pollution, not stop it. If you want to stop pollution, walk. Finally while I do not agree with the way some horses are treated, your statement that they should "run free" is fairly amusing to me. Horses would not exist if not for human activity and their usefulness to humanity as a race. Consider that the only wild horses that exist today are decended from domesticated horses. The original species which we domesticated is now extinct, so if not for our domestication of it, there would now be no horses.

    March 19, 2014 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  16. Joey

    Not humane? What a joke. We're talking about a species that commits a genocide on cows and chickens almost every day. These horses aren't being treated inhumane because they're getting excerise on a daily basis, being fed and taken care of without wasting it's life grazing in a field nibbling on grass or running from predators. Plus, the horses gives New York an image and heck, it's really popular for a guy to get one for a date, chicks dig a horse and carriage if you know what I mean.

    de Blasio is stupid, he better tread lightly if he wants to go against the will of the people like that or he won't be in office a term longer.

    March 19, 2014 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  17. Boomer in Mo

    The horses won't run free. Many will end up in Canada at a slaughter plant. The fact is there are too many horses in the U.S. right now and many have died of starvation because drought and other factors have made feeding them very costly and no one wants to buy low-end horses. I could sell $10,000 yearling's all the time, provided they have the pedigree and confirmation to be top horses. But an everyday horse, suitable for a weekend rider or kids that don't want to show are dirt cheap and often can't be sold for even a minimal amount or even given away. Sale barns have been having trouble for the last couple of years of people stuffing horses into their outside pens in the middle of the night and abandoning them. That is more humane than letting the starve to death, which happens all the time too. The horse industry collapsed along with the economy in 2005 and I doubt it will ever come back. I've gone from 14 broodmares to one and I just ride her and haven't bred her since 2006. She will graze out her life on the farm but those carriage horses are not going to go to a nice pasture like I have. Most will end up as killers. That is their only value now.

    March 19, 2014 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  18. baptist_deacon

    Using horses to pull carriages is "inhumane"? Don't they mean "cruel"? A horse is not a human. He is avocating treating a horse like it's a human being. What's next, will I get in trouble if I kill a mouse?

    March 19, 2014 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  19. MICK

    Can they at least keep their health plan?? NOPE

    March 19, 2014 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
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