May 1st, 2014
02:00 PM ET
9 years ago
Biking with Bush: Former President opens up about veterans, Jeb 2016
(CNN) - It is not an easy ride.
The rugged 100-kilometer mountain bike ride cuts through the Texas hill country and was designed to keep a fitness freak on his toes.
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So how do you think GW got his fortune? By Getting out in the fresh air! That's what more of you should be doing!
Clue: Sometimes you have to do something, even if it's wrong. Don't be sacred if Mitt becomes your next President! Oh, better get prepared now! Smile, it's later than you think!
For people like Tom l, the world is a frightening place, filled with people trying to take from them and mooch off of them. There is no joy, there is no beauty, there is only a constant stream of people attempting to take their money for things that don't immediately benefit them. There is no sense of community, country, or world: its all about them. The individual is all. Once in a while, they find people who agree with them on something, or something they feel that others should be in agreement with them, so they relentlessly hound and attack others, attempting to browbeat them into submission. There is no tolerance, and when people push back, their persecution complex begins. " I understand you better than you understand me/us" becomes the refrain, over and over again. This pushes them into taking more extreme positions, despite others warning him/her/them that they are chugging of the tracks into Whackyland. Despite their professed tolerance, they really are not tolerant at all, using their association with people of differing beliefs as a cover and/or excuse to continue their attempts to evangelize and browbeat others into accepting his/her viewpoint.
Is this accurate? Did I miss anything?
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That is your perception of me but I would wholeheartedly disagree with almost every point. Your perception of me is totally understandable as all we have are these comments that are made and read with no ability to have a true conversation so I can understand how you would draw the conclusion that you have. Am I argumentative? Absolutely and you are certainly not the first person to say that about me. 🙂 Am I tolerant? I would say that I am extremely tolerant (the very essence of being a libertarian or classical liberal is tolerance and not judging others nor forcing your viewpoint on them) but you wouldn't be able to understand that because you only know me through the ticker and you only see the side of me that is very political and very strongly opinionated (I certainly don't think I'm the only one with those characteristics on this board). Since you are saying I'm not tolerant of other views would you say that Sniffit or Rudy or rs are tolerant of other viewpoints? Why do you find them to be so tolerant yet I'm not? Do they tolerate my viewpoints or do they argue right back at me? It takes two (or twelve) to tango. 🙂
You portray me as an angry and unhappy person but I assure you that's not the case. I am not frightened by the world whatsoever. I don't fear "moochers" nor "takers" (a term I have never, ever used). I am, however, greatly concerned about an overreaching govt, that's fosho. But I'm not holed up in some basement counting my money and wary of anyone who comes near me. I completely recognize that there are people that need help but I just don't believe the govt is the best way to have our money taken and then given to them through some govt program (to me, that's inefficient and can be done much better through real charities and organizations). One of the core tenants of Judaism is called Tzedakah (charity). I donate to many charities both with my time and money because I feel that's the best way for people in need to truly be helped. I don't find higher taxation through the federal govt as a form of "giving" or charity or community. Compelling is not charity and is not communal. It is force. I find it to be the federal govt deciding how we should use the money you and I have earned and I'm not cool with that. I would rather give to who I want to give to and let you give to who you want to give to. Charity is a wonderful thing and a critical aspect of life. Community is vital to our wellbeing. I just don't think that the federal govt is the conduit to achieve charity – plus charity is the act of willfully giving not being compelled to through a tax or levy that comes via the govt. I don't think we are far off on many topics, and I know we don't disagree that there are people that need help here. Our differences lie in how to help these people. The difference is that you feel that govt is the best place to achieve that help and I just simply believe it's the people that can do that better rather than a bunch of corrupt and power hungry politicians who are bought and paid for by corporations/unions/donors, etc and who's only goal is to get reelected. They have done nothing to earn my trust nor faith. All they have done is made us Americans very angry and bitter towards each other if we don't share the same methods and viewpoints to achieve happiness and prosperity.
I think you have a lot of trust and faith in the govt and I just don't (I'm not saying you're an idiot for having that faith, I just think it's incorrect and that the govt has done nothing to earn our trust). I just don't believe the federal govt is the one that helps. I believe it's individual Americans and fellow citizens that make a community great. I believe that personal responsibility is a key component to happiness in life. Is there a role for govt? Of course. I just think it's a limited role.
Sniffit
Filed under: "What to talk about instead of reporting on the blatantly faked ACA numbers the House GOP/Teatrolls just released so they could run around lying that only 67% of people who enrolled on the federal exchange have paid their premium."
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The numbers that the Republicans are throwing around are known to be false because they are in direct contradiction with the numbers recently released by CEOs of several health insurance companies. Of course, the truthers will continue to believe whatever the Republicans are telling them, despite indisputable facts to the contrary.
even though he did not pay for the war? who paid?
Can't wait to see Sheldon Adelson,Rupert Mourdoch,Rove,Grover Norquist and the GOP stuff Jeb Bush down the tea party's throats EXACTLY like they stuffed Mitt Romney down.
Yes we should take care of our vets better than we have . Your right . Very brave smart Americans they are . .
DMFO,
I'm sorry but I meant it. It is a corrupt administration. So was Bush's. They have done things to deceive us.
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I'm good with agreeing to disagree, and in that vein let me just say that there is are lies and then there are lies.
You are not going to find an administration anywhere that is completely truthful with the people of it's country. That's a given fact.
Mistakes are going to be made and, yes, lies will be told.
The motivation behind the lie is the big differentiator for me.
Are you lying to protect me or others?
Or are you lying at my expense and the expense of the country for personal profit or reasons that have nothing to do with furthering the common good?
These are important distinctions for me.
There are many reasons why we don't need to know everything or be told everything.
Nobody is perfect. We all lie.
The motivation for what may be perceived as lying by some is important to me, and before I label any administration as corrupt I'd like to know what motivated them to "deceive" me, if in fact I was deceived.
It should be noted here that your boy Issa who thinks this administration is more corrupt than even you do has had no success in finding proof of said corruption.
God knows he's tried, bless his heart.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said there. I guess the difference is that you feel that the president lied for the better of us all and I believe that he lied to protect himself. I just feel that the evidence demonstrates that as he was in what was thought to be a tight race and needed to make sure that he didn't come off as weak or as unprepared. It's always the lie that is the bigger sin than the actual act. I don't fault him for the attack; I fault him for lying to protect himself. I'm not so naïve not to know that people lie but I guess where we stray is that you feel he lied to protect us and I feel he lied to protect himself. At least we agree that he lied...at least I think we agree on that point! 🙂