June 18th, 2014
08:13 PM ET
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Perry sticks by alcoholism and homosexuality comparison

(CNN) - Texas Gov. Rick Perry stood by his recent comments comparing homosexuality to alcoholism.

Appearing on CNN's "Crossfire" on Wednesday, Perry was asked by co-host Stephanie Cutter whether he believes homosexuality is a disease.

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"I think my position has been fairly clear on that for a substantial period of time," Perry said, pivoting quickly to the economy as a more pressing issue facing the United States.

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The focus should be on American jobs, Perry said, "and that is not on these social issues.”

"I think the social issues should be decided state-by-state rather than being something in Washington, D.C. to try to make one-size-fits-all."

At a speech last week in San Francisco, the longtime Republican governor - who ran for the White House in 2012 and is considering another bid in 2016 - was asked whether he thought homosexuality was a disorder.

"I may have the genetic coding that I'm inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that - and I look at the homosexual issue the same way," Perry said during that event, immediately sparking backlash from Democrats and gay rights organizations.

Asked repeatedly Wednesday on CNN about the controversial comparison, Perry did not elaborate further on his views on homosexuality.

"I got asked a question and I responded the way that I have before,” he said.

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Filed under: 2016 • Gay rights • Rick Perry
soundoff (566 Responses)
  1. RamboJohnJ

    Did he ever remember that third agency he'd eliminate?

    June 19, 2014 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  2. Raoul Duke, Doctor of Journalism

    "So did anyone ever find a "gay gene"?" It is likely an epigenetic thing, which means we may actually be able to inoculate against it. But if that solid ten percent of us weren't gay, would we become less human as a race, lose our best artists and musicians and interior decorators?

    June 19, 2014 01:18 pm at 1:18 pm |
  3. PushingBack

    ROFLOL! See, there is no GOP contender that could win the presidential election. They have no clue how moronic they sound saying stuff like this to the general populace, just to capture their scary, ignorant electorate.

    June 19, 2014 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  4. RamboJohnJ

    "I may have the genetic coding that I'm inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that – and I look at the homosexual issue the same way," Perry said"

    Right up there with Todd Akin's "legitimate rape" beliefs, Ricardo... Keep confirming Jindal's stupid party accusations..

    June 19, 2014 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  5. Fred Evil

    If you are not a liberal in your twenties then you have no heart. If you are not a conservative by 40 then you have no brain."
    An oft-quoted pile of malarkey. I suggest you pay more attention to reality than baloney.

    June 19, 2014 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  6. Raoul Duke, Doctor of Journalism

    Frankly, if I were as sissy-acting as Rick Perry, I'd immediately say I know NOTHING about being gay. NOTHING AT ALL, I am NOT an expert on gay stuff, shrug, don't ask me. He even crosses his legs at the knee. He's fey. He needs macho lessons from Lindsay Graham.
    Seriously, Rick Perry is a wetbrain alcoholic dealing with life as best he can. He really shouldn't be making big decisions. Or talking to the press.

    June 19, 2014 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  7. Anonymous

    well at least texas still allows "freedom of speech".

    June 19, 2014 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  8. mindstorms1

    One has to wonder if Perry is naturally ignorant or does he have to practice?

    June 19, 2014 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  9. not really news

    He tried his best to avoid answering this question.. kept talking about how social issues aren't important... want's individual states to make decisions on all social issues. He probably doesn't remember the Freedom Riders of the early 60's... the civil rights activist who were fighting the "social issues" that Mississippi and Alabama had as law... against blacks. Trying to hide from social issues is not going to work for him if he really thinks he can be president.

    June 19, 2014 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  10. Anonymous

    Not a bad analogy really. Since gays keep saying they are born that way... he's agreeing with them and just pointing out how one has the CHOICE.

    June 19, 2014 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  11. Sputnik

    It is a sickness, simple as that.

    June 19, 2014 01:30 pm at 1:30 pm |
  12. America

    Good man. Standing up for his state when the rest of the US is crumbling around us.

    June 19, 2014 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
  13. shawbrooke

    I'd agree that the country needs to deal with jobs and the economy.

    No one can say or do enough to appease the gay rights people anyway, other than to ask how high on the way up. The cause has gotten way too controlling of pretty well everyone. They could get what they want for themselves without threatening the freedoms of others, but getting what they want is no longer enough. They have stooped to taking bakers to court! Nuff already!

    June 19, 2014 01:32 pm at 1:32 pm |
  14. Raoul Duke, Doctor of Journalism

    " just pointing out how one has the CHOICE." That always kills me. How about you prove your point by going gay for a week? Just make the choice! Yeah, right. You don't have a choice and neither do they. Unless they are bi, which doubles their chances of picking up at the club. Oh man, that kills me. A choice. You first, ok?

    June 19, 2014 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
  15. roger

    What's not to get? It's a bit sad that the posts I've read here are all against the governor.

    If you are born with a predisposition to addiction, you do everything you can to overcome that predisposition. Attend AA meetings, have a sponsor, see an MD, see a shrink. You did these things because you know that the addiction is a bad thing. Just ask Alice Cooper why he golfs. He found something else to be addicted to other than alcohol and has fun doing it..

    Now, if you're born with a predisposition to homosexuality, you should realize that that also is a bad thing and do everything in your power to avoide succuming to that predisposition. So, do we have Gay Anonymous, do we have shrinks that will NOT tell this perosn to “eplore your feelings.”

    You say, why am I assuming that it's a bad thing. I'm Christian. All you have to do is quote Romans chapter 1 versus 24 to 28. If you're born with this predisposition and you don't fight it, you're throwing it in God's face, putting your arm around the devil, and walking in step right into the lake of fire:

    Romans, chapter 1:
    24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
    26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

    June 19, 2014 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
  16. WriterMan

    I just love the politicians and pundits who feel it necessary to spew forth their completely baseless opinions on topics ranging from gay rights to global warming as though these opinions were fact. Of course, Perry KNOWS that gays can just choose to be straight, like he chose not to be an alcoholic. It doesn't matter what the experts say. He KNOWS they are wrong. No real reason–he just does. (One has to wonder whether this means he chose to be straight at some point instead of giving in to homosexual desires.)

    It's the same with global warming. Many ultra conservatives KNOW it's a fabrication promulgated by 99.9 % of the most highly respected scientists on the planet. The reasoning is that the scientists either want some type of control over the population (no reason given) or are simply mistaken. (I guess all those glacial core samples were too tricky to assess properly.) These naysayers, however, KNOW the truth...somehow...without basis or reason. they just do.

    Oh, wait! There's that small fringe group of scientists–the .01%. They're in the same group as the .01% of mental health experts who believe gays can be converted to straight. I guess that means the reverse is also true. Funny, though...I don;t know any straight men who would become gay by being forced to taste something horrible while looking at straight porn videos–or any other "treatment." (This is one of the current conversion therapy strategies.)

    June 19, 2014 01:36 pm at 1:36 pm |
  17. Anonymous

    what. an. idiot.

    June 19, 2014 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  18. gregrobert

    Once again we KNOW what this is really about: Puritanism. That's right. That's all it is. People not thinking but instead just doing what their parents told them to do. Fundamentalists of all types are just plain AFRAID to think. They would much rather fall back on authortianism, then they can blame mythological books supposedly based on the speeches of the volcano god. Opps. They use something else now. The tri-god of Christianity, Jewdism, and - wait, and add one more myth - Islam. And then claim the 3/4 are, simultaneously, one.

    Wait, what was this topic about again?

    June 19, 2014 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
  19. fred

    Perry's voters want to hear exactly what he is saying. Obama's voters want to hear exactly what Obama is saying. No matter what they really believe, they'll say what they think is to their advantage in the polls! Get over it. At the end of the day, I just wish we could get to the point where "gay" was our biggest issue to tackle rather than being a distraction from the BIG issues that affect us all. The ones our elected officials are demonstrating incompentency on by focusing on gay marriage, ignition switches on GM cars, PEDs in pro sports, Benghazi, etc instead.

    June 19, 2014 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
  20. relmfoxdale

    There are loads of things we have choices about–he himself has made choices. Some would say he should never have chosen to be a governor because he's an idiot, but here we are.

    The problem that fools like him fail to notice is that it's not about genetics. The LGBT community itself needs to drop that like a hot potato, frankly–saying, "It's not my fault, it's a gene!" implies that you're being forced into this and would happily accept the cure the men in white coats come after you with. We'd end up vaccinating our kids. It shouldn't be about choice or lack of choice or genetics or environment or any bloody thing except that there's nothing actually *wrong* with two men or two women being together, and as long as everyone's happy and consenting, no one should be objecting or giving the slightest damn. If Rick himself just up and decided to be gay one day, the only issue would be with his infidelity to his wife, not with whether he chose to kiss that guy or a gene made him or because Obama or because anything. Because why in tarnation is it wrong to do that?

    June 19, 2014 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  21. Jeff T

    I don't know what it is about Texas. First we've got Bush Jr. then Cruz and now this guy. I know Texas thinks it is doing something right, but can you please keep your politicians at home. This is getting embarrassing, especially when these guys open their mouths. What is even more embarrassing is Perry actually appears to think he has a shot at the Republican nomination for President in 2016. This tells us a whole host of things, none of which bode very well for the RNC or the future of the Republican Party. The Democrats love this because while they may be as corrupt, greedy and incompetent as the Repubidiots, they seem to be able to better keep their mouths shut. Remember, silence is golden when you really do not know what you are talking about.

    June 19, 2014 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  22. jellylee20202

    It's okay, I think Rick Perry is a disease so we're even.

    June 19, 2014 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  23. MGGay

    Did he just admit he is a closet homosexual with a alcohol abuse issue?

    June 19, 2014 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  24. Sniffit

    " All you have to do is quote Romans chapter 1 versus 24 to 28."

    Shall I quote you all the parts of the Bible that say all sorts of things YOU don't obey and would vehemently deny that you obey or believe in? Or is it true that you believe slavery is just fine, that wives are property and follow all the rules about when to beat and how to trade for slaves and require your wife to do as you say in all things, etc.? No shrimp scampi deal at Olive Garden for you? Your a picker-and-chooser, which just negates any credibility you could have had...forever.

    June 19, 2014 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  25. Truth

    Romney's analogy was poor but the reality is that the purpose of life is to pass your genes and it's done so by survival and replication. Attraction is to the opposite gender is nature's way of promoting it, so if one does not have that attraction then something is wrong and off. You can call it orientation, condition, disorder, etc but that's just semantic. This does not mean that they are any less of a human being or should be treated poorly or can't accmplish great things, but this is not the normal and healthy cycle of life. Unfortunately, there is a lot of gay propaganda that has been actively trying to normalize it and shove it down peoples' throats by comparing it to gender or race, or they call the opposition homophobic which does not exist and is pseudoscience.

    June 19, 2014 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
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