Gov. Christie: ‘You have to be pro-life when they get out of the womb’
July 25th, 2014
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Gov. Christie: ‘You have to be pro-life when they get out of the womb’

(CNN) – New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Thursday there’s far too many people sitting in prisons for non-violent drug crimes and called on Republicans to focus on people not just before they’re born but after as well.

“I’m pro-life and if you’re pro-life you have to be pro-life when they get out of the womb also,” Christie said in an appearance at the Aspen Institute in Colorado, similar to comments he made last month at a major social conservative gathering in the nation's capital.
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Christie was in Colorado for events associated with his role as Chairman of the Republican Governors Association.

Thursday night’s event was a panel with other Republican governors including, Rick Scott of Florida, Sam Brownback of Kansas, Nikki Haley of South Carolina and Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

Christie said the justice system must stop stigmatizing the disease of drug addiction and focus more on rehabilitation.

“We don’t give them any kind of significant treatment, long-range treatment, and then we release them. And then we wonder why they go back and commit more crimes to support their habit,” Christie said.

The potential 2016 presidential candidate also said giving drug addicts treatment instead of prison time would help the economy too.

“You get someone off of drugs and back into a productive life, that not only helps society and our economy financially but it also makes us feel better about who we are,” Christie said.

The U.S. Sentencing Commission voted last week to reduce some the sentences of some drug offenders in federal prisons after Attorney General Eric Holder called for it.

The vote still needs to be approved by Congress and prisoners would have to apply for the reductions.

Meanwhile, Christie encouraged the GOP to focus on its core values while changing the norms for punishment in the war on drugs.

“If we are a party that believes that every life is precious and that no one, no one should be deprived of a second chance, well then we need to get on that issue,” Christie said.

Chris Christie's 'pro-life' message

Last month Christie was well received as he spoke at the fifth annual Road to the Majority conference, which is organized by Ralph Reed's Faith and Freedom Coalition.

Christie touted his credentials on important social issues, and framed the issue of drug addiction and treatment in a social conservative way.

CNN Political Editor Paul Steinhauser contributed to this report


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soundoff (148 Responses)
  1. Amy D

    The "pro-life" movement is not pro-life – they are anti-abortion, and anti-women. Their stance has NOTHING to do with caring about the actual lives of the babies they insist on forcing their mothers to have. It is ALL about being anti-sex for women. If a woman has sex, then heaven fobid, she must be punished with the "consequences". That's really all it is. Their attitudes regarding war, capital punishment, and ridding us of all social programs and help for those who do "choose life," clearly show this to be the case. This is also proven by their absolutely senseless efforts to limit contraception as much as possible. They would eliminate it if they could, so they could have even more women to point their fingers at for the great sin of enjoying what men are supposed to enjoy completely unimpaired. It's not about being pro-life. It's about punishing the women. End of story.

    July 25, 2014 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  2. Joe S

    Who is the we when he says "we don't give"? Surely he isn't talking about the government! Isn't it the republicans who say that the government can't do anything right? I'm pretty sure they are the ones who say that the government should be funding all of those social programs. Maybe he is talking to the private sector and asking the wall street tycoons to start funding free drug rehab.

    July 25, 2014 09:52 am at 9:52 am |
  3. Jumama

    Christie, when does pro-eat-everything-in-sight begin and end??

    July 25, 2014 09:54 am at 9:54 am |
  4. Rudy NYC

    Mark A

    Right Rudy.. and it isn't hypocritical when the pro choice people express firm support for abolishing the death penalty.
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    It is. I've pointed out the hypocrisies off both extremes of the debates. But, the pro-choice argument is only a hypocrisy in the eyes of those who believe that life begins at the moment of conception. I do not hold that view because that belief holds some unwanted consequences. It raises the potential for a woman to be charged with murder simply because she goes through her monthly experience, which is nature running its' course.

    If it is okay with mother nature, then it is fine with me. Even if life begins at conception, mother nature does nothing to protect it. I think that fact is something that the pro-life extremists need to consider when they argue about God's Will.

    July 25, 2014 09:55 am at 9:55 am |
  5. Anonymous

    Re: “I’m pro-life and if you’re pro-life you have to be pro-life when they get out of the womb also,” Christie said in an appearance at the Aspen Institute in Colorado, similar to comments he made last month at a major social conservative gathering in the nation's capital."

    ‘5Th Amendment Christie is at it, yet again!

    When I hear ANY Republican use the phrase ‘pro-life’, especially, in view of the prolifer's war-profiteering, aka, Iraq, L.L.C., where to date…NONE of the (IMAGINARY) N.W.M.D.'s have been located...

    I think about my 2016 presidential candidate, blazing her path through that, ('presidential'), glass ceiling and I say...you, GO, girl!!

    As regards my ‘Iraq, L.L.C.’ rhetoric, in which I refer to the war-crimes in Iraq as a semi-failed-business-venture…
    I regret that, as of this moment…
    I remain unable to contact 359 former coworkers…killed by ‘OTHER’ intolerant monotheist-apostates, circa 11.Sept., 2001, in lower Manhattan…and thus, I am unable to secure their opinion / feedback on the ‘Iraq, L.L.C.’ comment, prior to posting…

    July 25, 2014 09:56 am at 9:56 am |
  6. bette

    What are the NJ state prosecutors and the feds doing on his pending case? THAT should be the headline.

    July 25, 2014 09:58 am at 9:58 am |
  7. Lynda/Minnestoa

    "Christie touted his credentials on important social issues, and framed the issue of drug addiction and treatment in a social conservative way."

    It might just be me, but I suspect this message has been co-opted from Rand Paul. I also suspect Rand Paul is better equipped to get traction on this message.

    “If we are a party that believes that every life is precious and that no one, no one should be deprived of a second chance, well then we need to get on that issue,” Christie said."

    Next up ... what GOPerville plans on doing besides bloviating their message. Or will Reince Preibus continue to shutdown that whole action and words thingy?

    July 25, 2014 09:59 am at 9:59 am |
  8. rl

    Come on now Chris, you know better than to buck the right wing. Don't you? Pro-life beggins at conception and ends at virth.

    July 25, 2014 10:01 am at 10:01 am |
  9. Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair

    Rudy NYC

    I have always found it to be the height of hypocrisy to listen to the self proclaimed "pro-life" people also express firm support for the death penalty.
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    A lot of us who are pro-life are anti capital punishment, so don't go painting with such a broad brush.

    I happen to be against terminating a human life whatever the case, and sometimes that's difficult in the case of the death penalty – when the crime is so heinous, the doubt of guilt non-existant, and any semblace of remorse absent.

    Personally I think your equating the death penalty to abortion in this context is pretty shabby. You're equating a completely innocent victim to a hardened, often psychopathic monster, Not a fair comparison whatsoever. Nevertheless, in my eyes, ALL human life is precious.
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    Of course, I was generalizing. I think the comparison is a valid one. MOST of the pro-life crowd support the death penalty. MOST use Christian teachings to justify their beliefs on both arguments. I seem to remember reading something about "vengeance is mine", and that man should not take lives in the name of justice.

    Still, what are those pro-life folks going to do when it is known that a woman is carrying the Devil's spawn?

    July 25, 2014 10:03 am at 10:03 am |
  10. Guest

    The U.S. is one of the only countries in the world (aside from China, North Korea and Iran) to regularly hold Human Sacrifices.

    Human sacrifice in the name of the gods or in God's name is still human sacrifice. Whether a society allows its leaders to cut the heart from a living person, behead someone, or simply inject them with poison like the U.S., it is to purposely cause death in the name of "lady justice." If the U.S. is going to commit human sacrifices then Chief Judge Alex Kozinski is right, society should see it for what it is – all the gore and all blood.

    By definition, Human Sacrifice is the act of killing a human being as an offering to a deity or as part of a religious ritual.

    "Lady Justice" is Themis, a deity, a Greek mythological goddess who advised Zeus after his purge of the old pantheon. She carries the scales of justice in one hand, a sword in the other, and her eyes covered.

    Do you swear to tell the truth, so help you God?

    It is time that people relieve themselves of ignorance and call it for what it is. Human sacrifice by any other name is still human sacrifice...

    July 25, 2014 10:04 am at 10:04 am |
  11. Lynda/Minnestoa

    "Christie....called on Republicans to focus on people not just before they’re born but after as well."

    Yeah. They're gonna give them one get out of jail free card after birth. Use it wisely, little ones. Us it wisely.

    July 25, 2014 10:07 am at 10:07 am |
  12. John

    For all the pro-choice advocates out there, weren't you a fetus once? Would you be for or against your mother aborting you? Remove all of the personal sad stories of how and why the mother got pregnant, the fact is that fetus is just a smaller, less developed, human in a different location than you. Are any of those good reasons to end that humans life? They commited no crime, and they have no choice.

    July 25, 2014 10:09 am at 10:09 am |
  13. Peter

    The mother never has any say in the choice of abortion it is the soul of the child that makes this move

    July 25, 2014 10:11 am at 10:11 am |
  14. Marya

    The Pro Lifers need to focus on helping women who choose to have their babies and spending time helping them. They should spend their time and money helping organizations that do provide services for women who want to keep their babies! If the lifers just want to protest abortion, they are accomplishing absolutely nothing!!!

    July 25, 2014 10:11 am at 10:11 am |
  15. Richard Miller

    Every man should have to carry a baby full term, just for the experience. Most could not or would not carry it full term. Far too many men think with their little head.

    July 25, 2014 10:12 am at 10:12 am |
  16. Fair is Fair

    Rudy NYC

    Mark A

    Right Rudy.. and it isn't hypocritical when the pro choice people express firm support for abolishing the death penalty.
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    It is. I've pointed out the hypocrisies off both extremes of the debates. But, the pro-choice argument is only a hypocrisy in the eyes of those who believe that life begins at the moment of conception. I do not hold that view because that belief holds some unwanted consequences. It raises the potential for a woman to be charged with murder simply because she goes through her monthly experience, which is nature running its' course.

    If it is okay with mother nature, then it is fine with me. Even if life begins at conception, mother nature does nothing to protect it. I think that fact is something that the pro-life extremists need to consider when they argue about God's Will.
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    A woman being charged with murder bwcause she miscarries? Please tell me you're not serious.

    And "mother nature does nothing to protect it"? Mother nature protects it naturally through the 9-month human gestation period protected inside the mother.

    July 25, 2014 10:13 am at 10:13 am |
  17. sonny chapman

    Amy D, you nailed it. Pregnancy until full term is the punishment for a woman who has "pleasurable" ,Non-Procreation SEX. The punishment of her Male Partner ? A wry smile.

    July 25, 2014 10:14 am at 10:14 am |
  18. carolina corpus

    You get a chance at being born but what you do after that is up to you to live a life within sociaty rules or if not you know where you are going to end up.

    July 25, 2014 10:16 am at 10:16 am |
  19. sonny chapman

    Chris Christie just committed Repub BLASPHEMY. However, he did speak the Message of Jesus as found in the Four Gospels.

    July 25, 2014 10:16 am at 10:16 am |
  20. sonny chapman

    Amy D, you nailed it !!

    July 25, 2014 10:17 am at 10:17 am |
  21. It's obvious

    Man, who even knew this guy was still around?

    July 25, 2014 10:18 am at 10:18 am |
  22. Jack

    Pro-Life ends when the woman has the baby. Everyone with any intelligence knows that. The same people that beg women not to have an abortion and promise to help them tell them to get lost once they have the baby. It's a known fact.

    July 25, 2014 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  23. Anonymous

    Marya
    The Pro Lifers need to focus on helping women who choose to have their babies and spending time helping them. They should spend their time and money helping organizations that do provide services for women who want to keep their babies! If the lifers just want to protest abortion, they are accomplishing absolutely nothing!!!
    _________________________________

    I know many people who are pro-life who do exactly what you are talking about. Maybe you would meet some of them if you did the same. Give it a rest.

    July 25, 2014 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  24. Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair

    Rudy NYC

    Mark A

    Right Rudy.. and it isn't hypocritical when the pro choice people express firm support for abolishing the death penalty.
    ----
    It is. I've pointed out the hypocrisies off both extremes of the debates. But, the pro-choice argument is only a hypocrisy in the eyes of those who believe that life begins at the moment of conception. I do not hold that view because that belief holds some unwanted consequences. It raises the potential for a woman to be charged with murder simply because she goes through her monthly experience, which is nature running its' course.

    If it is okay with mother nature, then it is fine with me. Even if life begins at conception, mother nature does nothing to protect it. I think that fact is something that the pro-life extremists need to consider when they argue about God's Will.
    ----
    A woman being charged with murder bwcause she miscarries? Please tell me you're not serious.

    And "mother nature does nothing to protect it"? Mother nature protects it naturally through the 9-month human gestation period protected inside the mother.
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    Who said anything about miscarriage? I'm talking about a menstrual cycle. I'm talking about a douche. Mother nature does not protect anything until a fertilized egg secures itself to the womb, which does not happen instantaneously.

    But, now that you mention it, according to the laws that some folks want to see put on the books, a miscarriage could be construed as a crime because the mother did not do everything protect the fetus.

    July 25, 2014 10:24 am at 10:24 am |
  25. Jack Evans

    I am pro staying out of everyone's business. Their life, their choices, their consequences. I'm only anti when others' choices cause my taxes to go up because of THEIR poor decisions.

    July 25, 2014 10:25 am at 10:25 am |
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